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I am interested in buying this car, but carfax shows a couple times of failing smog. The car is in eBay warehouse form a powerseller who is overseas now. I did not see the car in person. Neither test drive. The price is attractive and eBay offers 100% refund even pickup. Is it (not passing smog) a concern?




1981 PORSCHE 911
WP0AA0912BS121374
COUPE
3.0L H6 FI / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Standard Equipment | Safety Options
CARFAX Vehicle History - At A Glance
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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 11 record(s) for this 1981 PORSCHE 911 (WP0AA0912BS121374).

Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
06/29/1994 31,304 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
San Francisco, CA Odometer reading reported for title
or registration
08/03/1996 44,739 California
Inspection Station Failed emissions inspection
08/03/1996 44,755 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
07/24/1999 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
San Francisco, CA Title issued or updated
07/22/2000 Vehicle Repair Center
Alameda, CA Vehicle serviced
07/22/2000 51,162 California
Inspection Station
Alameda, CA Passed emissions inspection
07/03/2002 Vehicle Repair Center
Alameda, CA Vehicle serviced
07/03/2002 55,984 California
Inspection Station
Alameda, CA Passed emissions inspection
09/11/2004 65,357 California
Inspection Station Failed emissions inspection
09/11/2004 65,404 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
09/06/2006 Porsche Cars North America No recalls open for repair


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Old 09-06-2006, 07:17 PM
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What state are you in specifically? I don't know much about CA, but I think their smog checks are about as stringent as they come. In NC, just for comparison, cars 25yrs or older don't have to have emissions checks, just a safety inspection. For cars of these ages, I don't think it's uncommon to have some emissions issues, from running to rich, to to lean, to CO2 sensors not working, etc. These issues are "fixable".

From experience, I would say that there are enough people on this list for someone to be close enough to check the car out in person for you. And, always, ALWAYS, spend the little money to get a PPI done. It is very cheap insurance and peace of mind. Any of these cars can look fantastic in photographs, and the seller will tell you anything you want to hear. Use your head, not your heart.
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chc - I would be very careful about bidding on a car with the owner abroad and the car in Ebay warehouse, this is a fairly well known scam! Do you have the item number?

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This car has regularly failed emissions tests only to be fixed and pass a later test. Yes, failing a test in a concern made very important because you have not been able to have the car inspected. You are taking chance and need to have this car go through a thorough PPI. The are thousands of SC's out there. This one is not so special that you have to take a risk on it. Get it inspected and/or go out to see the car yourself.
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Item#110025473454, my buy it now price is 9101.

I am offered 2nd chance to buy since the high bider back out the deal.

These are what I copy from ebay's response, read the 2nd and 3rd section, it is so attempting.

"The highest bidder was either unable to complete this transaction or the seller has a duplicate item.
The item is located at eBay Warehouse and it was inspected by our staff. eBay acts as a third party in this transaction and assumes all responsibility for the shipping and handling of this item. eBay warehouse services are free of charges for the buyer. eBay warehouse is a service used exclusively by US residents that are unable to complete their transactions within the US borders and are located overseas. (US embassies, US military, APO addresses)
One of our consultants has been asigned to assist you regarding this purchase. The selling of this item through eBay Warehouse Services is in compliance with our policy and you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller. You will also be eligible for all eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection."


"The item was shipped by the seller to our warehouse in San Jose,Ca. Here, we inspected and insured the item. The report from Mr. Junior Stevens (one of our experts) regarding this item says that it is in excellent condition and that the description listed on eBay is accurate. We offer a 100% refund of your payment. If the item is not as described, if it has even a minor discrepancy with the description, we are offering a full refund and also we are going to pick it up from your home for free. The shipping fee is included in the item's price, so you may consider that there are no other hidden costs. You must pay only the amount listed in the first email you received from us, nothing more.
The seller has a family emergency outside the country and he is unreachable by email or phone. You can consider eBay warehouse like an emergency service for eBay powersellers with high feedback that cannot conduct their business for a period of time, generally because they are traveling overseas. We handle the sale on their name. You are dealing directly with eBay now.

Thank you for contacting eBay!

Jennifer Whitman
eBay Business Consultant "


"If you are interested please click on the " Buy it now " button from our first email and follow the instructions. The transaction is made thru our site for your security.
The item was shipped by the seller to our warehouse in San Jose,Ca. Here, we inspected and insured the item.
The report from Mr. Junior Stevens (one of our experts) regarding this item says that it is in excellent condition and that the description listed on eBay is accurate.
We offer a 100% refund of your payment. If the item is not as described, if it has even a minor discrepancy with the description, we are offering a full refund and also we are going to pick it up from your home for free.
The shipping fee is included in the item's price, so you may consider that there are no other hidden costs. You must pay only the amount listed in the first email you received from us, nothing more.
Unfortunately the seller does not have a verified PayPal account. He submitted the bank account number and he is waiting for confirmation.Anyway by the time he will receive the confirmation, this offer will expire for you.
You have less than 24 Hrs to make the purchase.
We are waiting your decision.


Thank you for contacting eBay!

Jennifer Whitman
eBay Business Consultant"


Is this a scam? Sounds too good to be true.
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Sometimes when it sounds too good to be true, it is. And sometimes you get lucky. Are you feelin' lucky? Have you contacted Jennifer Whitman?
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the seller is responsible for the car passing smog when it changes hands. If you can get an inspection and the car is solid, why not? If you can't, then depends how lucky you feel. But the smog should be a non-issue. Could be a big thing...could be a small thing. Doesn't take much to fail smog in CA.
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There are loads of scam second chance offers ..... becareful buddy
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run away

this is a common ebay scam - there is no warehouse, nothing of the sort. contact ebay directly and report this - they will validate that this is a scam!

Run away from this as fast as you can, don't waste time or money chasing this or any similar email you receive.

I called ebay as well as email and reported this to them, common scam they are seeing!

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Run as fast as you can. a CAR was shipped to their 'warehouse'!! - overseas, no paypal, RUN.
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I am glad that I stay alert while looking for a car. They are so good, you should see the emails they send to me, you can not tell it is all fake. A good lesson for me. Stay alert and thanks for all input.

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