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How to lift slantnose headlight when motor is dead?

Today I found that one of my headlight doesn't like to lift up anymore. I guess the motor is gone. Does anyone know how a trick to lift it up?
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:36 PM
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I'm not sure what motors they used on the slantnose cars, but if it's a 944 motor or similar they have a knob on the top of the motor underneath a rubber cap that slides off. That will allow you to manually raise or lower the headlights.
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For non factory cars a very common config is to attach the headlight internals at the rear of the bucket.

You will need to disconnect the harness in the trunk to completely remove.

If you need to diagnose a problem when attached to the harness, remove the three nuts shown below from the rear of the bucket, use a towel to protect the fender and rest the assembly as far as the harness will allow. Then remove the four screws from the headlight assembly fender cover. You'll have access to the entire mechanism.

Is the headlight relay testing good?

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Most problems occur with the relay that is obtainable from Mazda.
I access mine through the area behind the accordian behind the front bumper.Replace the relay and I would bet it works again.

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Thanks guys,
Mine is not the factory. There is no bolts attaching the headlight bucket to the chassis or fender. It is one piece. The motor is inside the bucket. The only way I used to access to the inside of the bucket is to unscrew and take off the top cover. To be able to do this, I have to raise the headlight. Now, I have no idea how to raise the headlight. I am thinking of cutting up the bucket with some holes, big enough for me to unscrew the motor's arm so I can be able to manually raise the headlight.
What do you think?
Will look for the relay first.
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The bucket is welded to the fender.

Do you recall how the pop up mechanism is attached to the bucket? Did you look to see if you have the nuts at the back of the bucket?


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Keith I hope you don't mind but I figured your posted research would help here:

"...the relay,which is a Nippondenso (now Denso) unit from an RX-7. Don't go to Mazda for the part though. Find a Denso part distributor. The part # is 056700-5950 and should be under $30.00 ea."
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If my memory serve me correct, the mottor is mounted to a backet inside the bucket. The arm is bolt to the headlight lid's arm. But I will look to make sure. Hopfully the motor is bolt to the bucket.
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The way to check to see if it is the relay. Remove the rubber accordian on both sides and access the relays then switch them from side to side.The relays on my aftermarket slant are mounted in this manner.

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My slantnose bucket has a small hole underneath the bumper, bucket, etc. My motor has a small screw-like mechanism that points downward. I know that when you turn the arm, the motor moves. I cant describe the type of small knob, but it you saw it, it would look like a sunflower. The hole is too small to get your fingers up inside the bucket, but maybe a loooong small nose pliars would do. My motors are mazda. If I can find a picture, Ill let you know.
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kepperly,
Where should I look to find the relay? Thanks.

Thanks strupglf. I will try.
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Mine was mounted on the welded in portion of the bucket, behind the actual motor. The Accordians are held bye 8mm locking nuts.
The last time I replaced a relay, I made very sure it was well sealed.
That and I never wash my car! When I,m finished driving for the day, I wipe it off with a wet then dry micrfiber towel. Never leave
water sittiing around in the seams.

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I believe my relay is in the trunk area...not outside the car.

Now that Strupgolf mentions it I beleive you can use a socket and extention to actuate the motor shaft and manualy raise the headlight.

I'll check in a short bit and post back.
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K, just checked.

First check to see if you have a hole at the bottom of your bucket. If so you can feel about 3/4" in that there is the hexagonal tip of the motor shaft. Using a short extention and 6mm socket turn the shaft counter-clockwise. This will open and close the popup mechanism by manually turning the motor.
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To better visualize what's inside the typical conversion bucket....

(Credit to Mr.bch for posting the base pic)

Add: here is a link with other motor failure possibilities.... 911 slantnose headlight motor

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Yea, that's what I meant, with pictures too. Thats the set-up I have. Thanks
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Thanks Rick and all guys. You guys are supper. I will come out and check the hole right now.
As inside the bucket, I am not sure about the motor but the arma dn other component look diff. Doesn't matter now. All I hope is if my motor has the manual Hexagonal as this one.
Again, thanks.

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I just came down to check and found that yes Ihave a hole. Sticking my finger in there, I found the hole is covered . There is a part sitting right on top of the hole. It has rubber so I guess it is the black rubber part shown in the pic above. The bad thing is that it is bold tight in there. I can't move it.
Should I use a hammer and screw driver to knoc it out of the way and replace it later on? Or is there any other better way?
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The key to the repair is the relay enclosed in the rubber "bag"
shhown on the lower rigt of the photo. replace it and the odds are your done. Now you have to put all that crap back in and align, should of just pulled the side accordian and replaced it in the first place.

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I am reading there is a relay on both sides. What might be the primary culprit of both headlights not popping up?

They worked two weeks ago until my battery went dead while I had the lights on for adjusting. They were then locked in the open position until I jumped the car, then closed. They have not opened since.

Any ideas?

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To turn the knob, thre should be a hole on the bottom of the headlight bucket. You have to get underneath the car to feel it.
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