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Zeke 11-06-2006 05:20 PM

How much rust can you get off one car?
 
How's this for starters?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162866048.jpg

M491driver 11-06-2006 05:26 PM

Looks like parts from a crash recovery team.

w21055 11-06-2006 05:32 PM

What year car did that come off of???

khamul02 11-06-2006 05:34 PM

Where is the pic of the car missing all of this stuff?

450knotOffice 11-06-2006 05:39 PM

I'm guessing Ragamuffin I.

Zeke 11-06-2006 05:48 PM

Here's three:

That "thing" in the center in the top post pic []was[/i] the package tray.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162867563.jpg

A piece made by hand:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162867621.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162867661.jpg

Zeke 11-06-2006 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 450knotOffice
I'm guessing Ragamuffin I.
Nope, but a '71 S just like it right down to the red over factory green. I just threw the parts out and thought I'd snap a digi. I did this one privately earlier this year.

This part was interesting.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1162871295.jpg

DarrylD 11-07-2006 09:17 AM

Holy Cow Milt! That makes me feel like my rusty 912 is pristine! All my rot was limited to the lowest areas of the channels!

I did an "autopsy photo" like yours on the parts I cut off the left side:

http://members.aol.com/darryld/912scrap.jpg

Now that I'm almost done with the right side (as of yesterday):

http://members.aol.com/darryld/912RRKRy.jpg

I'll put both sides of the "amputated" parts together in their relative position for a final "autopsy photo."

That 356 panel forming is quite inspirational! Maybe someday I'll have the courage to try something like that!

rusnak 11-07-2006 02:15 PM

oh my gawd, I'm going to have to revise my standard reply to people who ask if I'm going to sell my 911. I always say "I'm going to drive it until one of us dies". Now I know Porsches never really die.

Milt, you missed your true calling as an Anthropologist. Great work!

Tim K 11-07-2006 02:43 PM

Was the 'A' pillar rusted all the way up there from a leaky windscreen seal?

Tim K

Hugh R 11-07-2006 04:10 PM

Where does this "rust" stuff come from anyway? I think people who live at the beach in Ventura get some of it. Is it the salt in the air near the ocean that does it?

DarrylD 11-07-2006 04:23 PM

Hey Hugh!

Around here in Seattle, the classic rust pattern is anywhere persistent moisture is present. The most common is when pine needles, dirt or leaves clogs the drain holes in body cavities. The build-up of "gunk" over time never has the chance to dry out so it rots the bottom of the cavities. Moisture also accumulates anywhere there is an overlap of metal like at the base of the windshield or the rocker panels.

Salt is much more insidious, it attacks any place where bare metal is exposed. Unfortunately in the early Porsches, there's a lot of bare metal in hidden places or places where the undercoating dries, cracks and exposes the underlying metal. Sea air is full of salt and areas with harsh winters where the roads are salted is also a bad place for these old cars.

Zeke 11-07-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim K
Was the 'A' pillar rusted all the way up there from a leaky windscreen seal?

Tim K

Yes, that would be my asssesment. And not while the car was in service, but more from sitting outdoors abandoned. Those are the worst cars. I've done 2, I know.

Hugh R 11-07-2006 05:02 PM

Darryl, I'm sorry I'm being a little (ok, a lot, facetious). I grew up in Boston, and I live in SoCal now. It just amazes me what salt on the roads does. I drove my Aston for exactly one year in Boston and then moved to LA and I found some surprising rust/rot from the salt that was caught in the spaces between the tubular steel frame and the aluminum body. Stuff that got reactivated every year when I drove the car in the rain. In LA you can still buy a 60's or 70's VW bug with running boards that you can actually stand on. I had a 68 bug in Boston, and put my foot on the running board and it just fell off.

DarrylD 11-07-2006 06:15 PM

Ha! I'm a bit trigger-happy, I just got my merit badge in rust repair Hugh!

randywebb 11-07-2006 08:50 PM

Yes, salt can be carried inland many hundreds of yards in the air. Most don't realize that and think they are safe. I've even seen it a thousand feet up above the sea surface on cliffs - of course, that was during watching some nice storm action.

Jerome Ryals 11-08-2006 04:56 AM

I recently parted out a 66 and always wanted to see what held the inboard ends of the rear torsion bars in place so I cut up the very rusty torsion tube and poured the rust out it literally filled a one gallon can full. I had a picture if I can find it I'll post. Darryl and Milt nice work there guys, its very interesting and educational watching what you guys post here and on the other board.

fly4val 12-07-2006 07:44 PM

Yo Milt.....I'm overwhelmed by the pictures you have posted here....I'm going to be on vacation from Boing Boing in OC/SoCal from 22-28 Dec

Any chance I could visit you at that time?

Val

KevinS 12-07-2006 08:23 PM

I think Porsche owes you a reward for bringing that puppy back to life. Well done and good luck.


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