Flag Mirror Motors into Aeros??

[jcc911]

Anyone ever put their flag motors into aero mirrors?
I just thought I would ask before I cut any wires.

Also the wires on the drivers side for my 78 are different colors from all of the schematics that I have seen on here.
Any one know which wire connects to which between the 78 and the 993, Thanks J.

[RickM]

Tough questions as the wire colors vary within certain years. Since I've been keeping track I have heard of, but have not seen, a direct wiring scheme for SC/Carrera mirrors to any aero counterpart. I also believe the motor assemblys to be completley different as well.

Can you post the wire colors as the come from your door?

[jcc911]

From Door I have Grey/Green, Black/Yellow, White, Blue, Brown and Brown.
Connected to those from the mirror are;
Grey/Green, Black, White, Blue, Brown, Brown.


I have not yet looked at the Pass side yet.

[RickM]

JCC, I'll look at my references in the morn and post back.

[jcc911]

Thanks for your help. Did you ever find any more of your modules? Or are those for Carreras (mid-late 80's)?

[RickM]

The modules are for SCs and Carreras. However there are wiring differences. I did find the extra set.


FWIW, I'm thinking of doing a tech type article on DIY module/wiring.

[jcc911]

Thanks, I would love to read it!
In looking at your modules, the connectors are long and norrow, whereas the connectors inside my mirror are round. How do the two jive?

[RickM]

The "module" merely connects via soldered butt joints...not sure what you mean.

[jcc911]

Not the module itself, but rather the white connetor, I believe is is the female end I have seen in your pictures. The shape of it is rectangle, but where the door and mirror wires connect inside of the mirror is a round connection.

I guess I may not fully understnd how the module works. Is that extra set for sale?

[ANTONIO]

Call BW Motorsports,(618)622-0524, they have the right modules for a hassle free install, cheers, Ant.

[RickM]

Originally posted by jcc911
Not the module itself, but rather the white connetor, I believe is is the female end I have seen in your pictures. The shape of it is rectangle, but where the door and mirror wires connect inside of the mirror is a round connection.

I guess I may not fully understnd how the module works. Is that extra set for sale?

I will look for the extra set and PM you. The connectors you see allow the existing harness to connect to the mirror with a factory connector via the relay module.

[jcc911]

Rick, PM Sent, Thanks.

[TRE Cup]

everyone here has been discussing wiring differences- but you can't use the internal guts of the early flag mirrors in a late aero mirror- very different designs!

[RickM]

Originally posted by TRE Cup
everyone here has been discussing wiring differences- but you can't use the internal guts of the early flag mirrors in a late aero mirror- very different designs!

"I also believe the motor assemblys to be completley different as well."

This is why we're discussing the use of the relay.

[wesayso]

Sorry to bring up this old post but what type of relay should I be looking for in hooking up aero mirrors to my '82 SC? After reading most of the older posts I guess the relay wil be 'activated" by the wiring that goes to the clutch in the old mirrors to switch from up/down to side/side action or vice versa? A source for those factory connectors would be great too!

Unless the module can be bought easely through the net, I'm in the Netherlands, Europe, so I'm looking for a place to source the parts or the wiring kit with the relays as a whole.

Thanks,

Ronald

[jcc911]

I purcahsed a set from Rick M, but I am not sure if he makes them any more. Otherwise I beleive that Performance Products carries them.
Yeah, I beleive the orginal motors use reverse poarity to change directions. This will not work with the new motors.
As for factory connectors, I am not sure where you can get them. Since my connections were round and the relay connections were square, I had to cut (I know ouch) the doors side and connected 0.69 (i believe) male pins to the wires. Some of the wires had to be piggy-backed together. If you find a wire schematic (shearch here) you will figure out which wires connect to which module wires.
Hope this helps, Jeremy

[wesayso]

Thanks for the reply. I didn't find any at Performance Products, I'll keep looking. Maybe I'll PM Rick M for some help, couldn't hurt right?

[jcc911]

If you have the holiday catalog, they are on pg. 213
The part number is 913145.
Good Luck!

[wesayso]

Thanks, that helped a bit but I only see the modules complete with mirrors. I think I can find a way to make it work using a relay like in RickM's picture. The factory connector in the mirrors I bought were actually VW-Audi parts so I'll try to get 2 of them to keep wiring original inside the mirror. I believe my left mirror has a temperature probe as well but I wouldn't know how or where to hook that up.

Thanks for your help!

[jcc911]

Thats odd, because in my catalog, the listing says,
Electric Wiring Module for Aero Mirrors 911 78-86 1pr.