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Tex3 11-25-2006 01:47 PM

Calling all Canadians need your help
 
I dont know if this is in the right place.(It's kinda tech. related:D ) but here it goes. Im in the process of purchasing an engine from a guy in Canada but he is having 1 heck of a time getting the engine to clear customs. According to him its alot of paper work and waiting. My ? is What would be the quickest and easiest way to get it to the US. any advise would be appreciated. He has contacted a broker to do the leg work. I dont know what that will cost? maybe it will leave me in the poor house:(

Zef 11-25-2006 02:01 PM

I am sure than it is not worst than importing a complete car. An engine is a merchandise like any other one...no registration...he just have to put it on Fedex with all the paper realtive to it...the broker (Fedex himself) will do the paperwork and you will pay the transport and the tax on the good...

Tex3 11-25-2006 02:17 PM

Sly, motor will be transported via freight. Also the guy is willing to drive 1 1/2 hrs to the border and cross it so I can save on the freight, but he is afraid that they will detain him. This is all new to both of us.

thanks

Paulporsche 11-25-2006 02:34 PM

Try this website for help:

www.cbp.gov/

johnsjmc 11-25-2006 02:52 PM

You can phone the US customs office at the point of entry and get verbal instructions to avoid a problem when the engine gets there. It will be much easier and cheaper to clear the border in person and ship from stateside. There are various rules for a commercial shipper which are not applied as strictly for an individual.I sold a 1965 Mustang about 6 years ago to someone in Florida.I drove it to the border and shipped after entering .It was a breeze.

Mike the mechanic 11-25-2006 03:32 PM

I recently sold my tt motor :( and had no problems whatsover. I used a shipping company called ForwardAir, at the buyers suggestion. All i had to do was drop off the crated motor at the airport and the rest was done. The buyer had to pick up the engine at his airport and that was that! If anything, you, John, would have to deal with the customs people, and that would be kind of a hassle. But for the seller, it should be very simple.

rvanderpyl 11-25-2006 03:33 PM

I did it the other way, bought an engine in the States, had it shipped to Canada. Used Yellow Freight, In Canada when the engine comes in you go and pick up the paper work, take it to your closest Customs office, fill in a form and pay whatever duty/taxes are charged and go back to the freight co where they then release the engine.

You need the seller to include a invoice that states exactly what is being sold, and how much it is worth, but this can usually be provided by the freight company as a commercial invoice.

You should be able to find the document requirements on the US Customs on a goverment web site.

Paulporsche 11-25-2006 04:08 PM

Another helpful site:

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/export/menu-e.html

Logan175 11-25-2006 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike the mechanic
I recently sold my tt motor :( and had no problems whatsover. I used a shipping company called ForwardAir, at the buyers suggestion. All i had to do was drop off the crated motor at the airport and the rest was done. The buyer had to pick up the engine at his airport and that was that! If anything, you, John, would have to deal with the customs people, and that would be kind of a hassle. But for the seller, it should be very simple.
I believe my uncle used that company when he shipped his 426 across the border into canada. He had no trouble with it I dont understand why you guys should.

Logan

Dennis Kalma 11-25-2006 04:51 PM

Shipped a lot of stuff both ways, including two complete cars.

I have always used Fedex Ground or similar, they can tell you what you need, which is not much, and off you go!

Dennis

Tex3 11-25-2006 05:01 PM

Thanks guys I'll keep on researching but yall leads are good

real550A 11-25-2006 05:07 PM

I shipped a motor to Ontario last year. I faxed the bill of lading with the value stated, to the buyer ahead of time. He picked it up
without a problem.

Jeff Alton 11-25-2006 08:27 PM

I too have shipped with Forward air and it was painless. Suggest to the seller he finds a new shipper.

Cheers

purplxd 11-25-2006 08:53 PM

I can help you with this, I do lots of customs clearance to and from the US through my broker.

Engines are very easy.


Cheers
Aaron

Jeff Alton 11-25-2006 11:12 PM

Aaron, gotta email you for some help with shipping wheels....

Cheers

unclebilly 11-25-2006 11:17 PM

So if the engine is for a car that is 15 years old or older, there is no duty so the paper work should be pretty much non existant. You just need to know the appropriate customs code for antique auto parts.

purplxd 11-26-2006 12:11 AM

That's not true.

There is Duty if it is not US made, this is due to NAFTA.

If it's not made in the US, Duty is charged. The year doesn't matter.

So unfortunate for us, Porsche = Germany = Duty. :(


Car parts are under a different code which is easier to get through the border. Cars are a whole other story.


PS If anyone needs help with getting cars shipped to Canada from the US, or the other way around, I can help with this including all customs paperwork you need.

I've done this soooo many times. I'm also doing a Porsche project "so will work for parts" so to speak. :)


Cheers
Aaron



Quote:

Originally posted by unclebilly
So if the engine is for a car that is 15 years old or older, there is no duty so the paper work should be pretty much non existant. You just need to know the appropriate customs code for antique auto parts.

purplxd 11-26-2006 12:14 AM

Oh and antique is 25 years and older... FYI

Cheers
Aaron


PS All this being said sometimes you can get creative to save on taxes and fees as much as possible... Legally of course, getting stuck at customs SUCKS!!!!

purplxd 11-26-2006 12:17 AM

A lot of the times you need the VIN number from the source car, but you're right, you don't need a title or registration and you don't do a Form 1 when coming into Canada.


Cheers
Aaron


Quote:

Originally posted by zefsuper911
I am sure than it is not worst than importing a complete car. An engine is a merchandise like any other one...no registration...he just have to put it on Fedex with all the paper realtive to it...the broker (Fedex himself) will do the paperwork and you will pay the transport and the tax on the good...

Gunter 11-26-2006 09:17 AM

Hmmm.
Don't know about from Canada to US but..........
When I bought a 3.0 liter in the US 2 years ago, I had it on the back of a 1/2 ton, a bill of sale, arrived at CAN Customs, paid the 2 taxes (GST & PST) No Duty came up even though I declared it as a Porsche engine.
All told, it took 15 minutes, no broker involved.
To ship to the US from CAN, any shipper will be able to tell what's needed.


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