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Pelican's Oil Cooler Scoop
Has anyone tried the oil cooler scoop sold at this site? I have an 82 911SC...I will one day upgrade to the carrera cooler..maybe if I become a psychotic racer the RUF type cooler, but for now I was thinking of the scoop. During the day through reg, middle and heavy traffic my temp guage reads at the exact middle (105C 225F..numeric gauge, another project) I would like to know people's experience with this product...while doing this I will probably change the driver's side reflector to the euro light covers...make the car look cleaner. Thanks
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I have a similar question so I will boost this back to the top of the list.
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I can't see how it will help except at high speeds. In heavy traffic I would think no difference.
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I spoke w/ the manufacturer of the oil cooler scoop and Bob Tindell ,( has one installed on his 83 SC), at the Pelican Parts Swap Meet about this scoop.It seems the scoop is most effective when the air moving through it is voluminous. That would seem to indicate that on the track at high speed or on the freeway would be best , but idling around town wouldn't make much difference.Too Bad. Probably be great for a trip to Las Vegas.
I wished that I had one on the way back from Temecula on the 405 when my temp guage was climbing over the mid oil temp mark where it normally runs. One major plus is that it fits right in where the lens goes w/o any mods. At $100 ,it seems rather pricey for a six inch piece of grp. |
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On this board there hs to be someone with this on their car...
I am sure it is helpful in highway driving, and I am sure it is no good in stop deadtraffic, but it must be helpful to have some sort of extra inlet for air... maybe the lack of responses is a sign of its impopularity?? |
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As a subscriber to the english magazine 911&PORSCHEWORLD I know from the current issue that their next issue will contain an article on this subject. Maybe it will be helpful for any of you. Since I live in Denmark I have no problems with overheating whatsoever so I didn't really pay attention to the short description of the article. But it has to contain some info on advantages/disadvantages...?
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I have an 83 SC and recently made the following mods:
1. Replaced the trombone with an OEM Carerra oil cooler. Added a manually switched, SPAL fan. 2. Added the Oil Cooler Scoop 3. Swapped out the OEM heat exchangers, cat and muffler for SSIs and pre-74 muffler. - Results - - Clearly, the manually switched fan on the Carerra OEM cooler has had the greatest impact on controlling oil temps. Here in the WashDC area, I flip the fan on as soon as the oil temp gauge hits 210. I can be in stop and go traffic with the a/c running and now the temps rarely exceed 215/220. Previously with the trombone, I was hitting 245 or so, even after shutting down the a/c. - The SSIs, with straight pipes back to the muffler (no cat or test pipe) maintains a cooler oil temp while running on the highway. In stop and go, the temps rise more quickly than with the old exchangers. (but I just flip the fan on now). - The scoop probably provides a needle's width of cooler oil temps, but only on the highway. - On the track for DEs, all bets are off. With the fan running full time, I still can reach 245/250 on hot days. The big difference is, however, the fan will bring the temps down to 225/230 by the time I complete a cool down lap and motor to my spot in the paddock. - Chuck |
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I have an 83 SC and recently made the following mods:
1. Replaced the trombone with an OEM Carerra oil cooler. Added a manually switched, SPAL fan. 2. Added the Oil Cooler Scoop 3. Swapped out the OEM heat exchangers, cat and muffler for SSIs and pre-74 muffler. - Results - - Clearly, the manually switched fan on the Carerra OEM cooler has had the greatest impact on controlling oil temps. Here in the WashDC area, I flip the fan on as soon as the oil temp gauge hits 210. I can be in stop and go traffic with the a/c running and now the temps rarely exceed 215/220. Previously with the trombone, I was hitting 245 or so, even after shutting down the a/c. - The SSIs, with straight pipes back to the muffler (no cat or test pipe) maintains a cooler oil temp while running on the highway. In stop and go, the temps rise more quickly than with the old exchangers. (but I just flip the fan on now). - The scoop probably provides a needle's width of cooler oil temps, but only on the highway. - On the track for DEs, all bets are off. With the fan running full time, I still can reach 245/250 on hot days. The big difference is, however, the fan will bring the temps down to 225/230 by the time I complete a cool down lap and motor to my spot in the paddock. - Chuck |
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I have an 83 SC and recently made the following mods:
1. Replaced the trombone with an OEM Carerra oil cooler. Added a manually switched, SPAL fan. 2. Added the Oil Cooler Scoop 3. Swapped out the OEM heat exchangers, cat and muffler for SSIs and pre-74 muffler. - Results - - Clearly, the manually switched fan on the Carerra OEM cooler has had the greatest impact on controlling oil temps. Here in the WashDC area, I flip the fan on as soon as the oil temp gauge hits 210. I can be in stop and go traffic with the a/c running and now the temps rarely exceed 215/220. Previously with the trombone, I was hitting 245 or so, even after shutting down the a/c. - The SSIs, with straight pipes back to the muffler (no cat or test pipe) maintains a cooler oil temp while running on the highway. In stop and go, the temps rise more quickly than with the old exchangers. (but I just flip the fan on now). - The scoop probably provides a needle's width of cooler oil temps, but only on the highway. - On the track for DEs, all bets are off. With the fan running full time, I still can reach 245/250 on hot days. The big difference is, however, the fan will bring the temps down to 225/230 by the time I complete a cool down lap and motor to my spot in the paddock. - Chuck |
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Seems to me that the scoop can only be of limited help if you still have the trombone cooler, as the trombone cooler is not really a very effective radiator. On a trombone equipped car, its the entire length of the oil lines to and from the front of the car that is really the radiator, the trombone is really simply a return loop.
At a stop or slow speeds, the scoop obviously does little or nothing. At higher speeds, your going to have oil flowing through the trombone pretty quickly. Given that the trombone has limited surface area (i.e. its not really a radiator), and the hot oil is only in there for a very limited time, getting more flow over it seems like it would only have minimal effect. Just my guess. |
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Sorry for the triple post and waste of bandwidth - - I kept getting weird messages from the server saying my connection was refused. Had never seen that error message before. Anyone else experience this problem?
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