MotorUp Engine Treatment - Good, bad or indifferent?

Have just come from our monthly Porsche Club meeting and the guest speakers spoke technically [with commercial undertones] about the following 4 products:
MotorUp; GearUp; FuelUp and PrepUp.
In each case they were emphatic that the products are something special and quoted impressive test results that [obviously] none of the competition has been able to achieve.
They are made in the USA and relatively new in Australia. Has anyone out there had any experience with these products?
I have an ‘82 SC with about 120,000 miles and am considering giving the MotorUP "Engine Treatment" a try.
Your views would be appreciated.
Thanks
J

What is it supposed to do?

Just my opinion, but if the motor got to 120,000 miles on what you have been doing, why change it?

Hey if Porsche does not recomend it's use, you have not used it in the past, your car is running just fine, IMHO I'd run from this snake oil as fast as I could. When I was at
"Indy" we had to add STP for contingency money. USAC inspectors stood there while we added the stuff. Tipped the can up and put in about 1 oz. then thru the rest into the garbage can. Why is it that all of these folk who make oil addatives who have much smaller budgets than the auto mfg. or the oil
mfg. think they have the worlds best snake oil and that's what it is SNAKE OIL.

Randy Jones
1971 911

My theory is pretty much the same as Randy's.

Oil companies are really big and have lots of money for R&D. If someone really has come out with a revolutionary product which can meet the claims made by WhateverUp, surely it would be worthwhile for one of the oil companies to buy the technology and market it.

I would be very surprised if the oil companies haven't tested the claims themselves.

Cam

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Cameron Baudinet
1975 911S

BEWARE! Teflon coating for example may work until it gets too hot, at which point it degrades into a very corrosive agent. I forget where I read that but it was from a reliable source. The guys above are right on!

I've had good luck minimizing oil seal leaks with various products. The types that swell rubber seals and gaskets. Both in a subaru with 200k and a 911 with 100k

I had put some of that stuff in one of my race motors as an "experiment" When I tore it down the product left a tarnish on the cam and all the top end related stuff in the motor. Whatever redction in wear or whatever claims they make I was much more comfortable with good motor oil and wrenching. That tarnish was just nasty looking.

Txs for your replies. It sounded so good at the talk given at the Porsche Club, that I took the liberty of forwarding on the replies to the Regional Sales Executive for comment and this is the email he sent to me:
"Hi Jack,
here is the reply to your question. My apologies again for the delay - my technical contact was out of contact in Thailand and unable to reply to me until now.
I hope you find this relevant and useful, and not too late:
The responses to your post seem to cover 3 areas: commercial, product safety and product performance.
Commercial: I cannot comment on why oil companies have not developed extreme pressure lubrication products. That is a business decision they have made and such decisions are taken for many reasons. Also, I have no information on why MotorUp remains an independent company. My purely personal thought is that the company's founders who developed MotorUp value their independence and prefer to keep developing the company this way rather than seeking more investors and having less control over company direction.
Product Safety: MotorUp is tested to the same standard as SJ oil in the CRC L-38 Engine Oil Test, by the same US government certified laboratories which test oils for the oil companies to the API standards. It is the only engine treatment which has been tested at this level. In terms of safety of use, MotorUp is on a par with the best oil you can buy.
Product Performance: In February 2000 MotorUp was subject to a Nissan-specified severe service engine test known as KA24E. The test was conducted by a US government certified laboratory under the auspices of the ASTM (American Society for the Testing of Materials). In comparison to SJ Pennzoil, MotorUp produced:
44.7% less abrasive wear 30% wear reduction on exhaust cam lobes reduction of contamination from 11% to 98% engine life extension by reduced size and volume of wear materials
The above tests demonstrate that MotorUp offers safety of use comparable to the latest oil standard (SJ) and significantly less wear than SJ oil alone. The tests were specified by the premier agencies in the world for this kind of testing and conducted by the highest quality independent laboratories.
Thanks in advance,
Ken."
I really didn't expect him to capitulate - I still have 2 unopened bottles of MotorUp but have decided not to use it until I hear something positive from this post. Anyone prepared to give it the thimbs up?
J

I work at a Nissan dealership and I never ever heard of MotorUp. Now if it was so extremely good for your engine how come we don't see it on the news? All these oil additive products are claimed to be the world's 8th wonder. Still you never hear any reliable organizations promoting them. I'm sceptical towards this MotorUp stuff. If you want your engine to last long you should change the oil every 6 months. Don't just put in some wonder product.

Yes I can understand if the salesman's presentation seemed convincing. It's his job to be convincing. I once almost bought something which sounded like it was the best for my 911, but later found out that the quality was below average. I'm so glad I didn't buy the product after all.

My advice: Spend your money on a high quality engine oil and change the oil every 6 months. Then your engine will last longer.