Need help w/Sway-a-way spring plates install.
 

I've been staring at this design for 30 mins. now and I still have not figured it out. Instruction don't help much. Does the long end go in the torsion bar tube or out? The pics obviously are without the bushings. Either way, there are only sprlines at the extreme end of the long tube which, in either orientation, is not where the splines will be on my torsion bar. Can someone please help?

Car is a 78SC. Thanks you.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170358988.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170359002.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170359030.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170359043.jpg

I'm not much help other than I think the height adjuster should be on the outside of the spring plate which puts the long tube on the outside.
Do they make a G50 version of these spring plates? The outside torsion tube on the G50 is longer than the one on the 915. However, even the one on my G50 doesn't go past the opening in the rear fender.

Here is a side by side comparison of where the splines are compared to the old set-up. This just doesn't make any sense.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170360120.jpg

I think it must be a G50 spring plate. Here's a past post with a picture of a similar after market spring plate for a 915.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279464&highlight=g50+sp ring+plate

I think someone sent you the wrong plates ... those are probably for an offroad, tube-frame buggy application. The Sway-A-Way plates for any given year of 911 are supposed to be for stock-length torsion bars ... and those are clearly NOT!

Greeeeeeaaaat! My car's been on jackstands for over a week waiting for these. When I ordered them the website said "in stock-ships within 48hrs", then all of a sudden they were on backorder.

Not too happy with Pelican right now.

Ulrich

Don, Did you stick with this set-up? Any problems.

Ulrich

And after you solve that problem, you'll be faced with this one....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?threadid=308515&highlight=spring+pl ates+adjustable

The factory spring plates are looking pretty good right now, eh? ;)

It looks like they have addressed the rubbing portion by including a spacer but that would mean even less spline engagement than is shown in Don 911s post above.

Ulrich

Those are the wrong spring plates for a '78. I have Sway-A-Way springs plates on my '76 and they look nothing like that. I don't even think those are G50 spring plates! Yikes, what could they have sold you?

Also, I have not seen any sort of warping of the spring plates like what is shown in the thread above. I don't think that problem exists with the Sway-A-Way product. Mine have worked flawlessly for 13 years now.

Mike

See posts by armandodiaz and Zoanas on Pages 3 and 4 of the thread that coloradoporsche linked above.

Interesting. Mine have been fine even after 13 years of use and thousands of track miles. Thanks for the info - I didn't know about that with the Sway-A-Ways.

Mike

I have a previous installation post on this.
I think the problems you'll find is that:
1. The outer stub is too long (your pic is a funny exaggeration;)), so that it only grips about 1/2 inch or so of the t-bar spine. This isn't enough. Some have shortened it by cutting out a section and welding it back together.
2. The front edge has to be ground-off a little bit because it will hit the mounting posts and possibly break them.
3. The two halfs of the arm may spread apart because they are not fastened/bolted together. There was a similar post regarding the similar Wevo design in the archives.

Sway-A-Way should know of this by now, and should have adjusted their products to work properly.........as any responsible company would.

I just called Pelican and asked for a refund. Going back to good old Neatrix and stock spring plates. Very dissappointed, I had visions of never having to reindex my bars again.

Ulrich

You may want to consider the ER polybronze bushings instead of Neatrix.

Ulrich,
The link that I posted was just one I found on pelican. I recently replaced my spring plate bushings with the elephant racing set up but using stock spring plates.

Could you have exchanged them for the correct part? If they don't have, there are other vendors. Much easier than wrestling with the factory spring plates.

Sherwood

After seeing some of the other problems posted above associated with these plates it really put me off the whole idea.

Ulrich

don't get turned off from it... i have sway-a-ways on my car and they're nice. re-indexing is somewhat easier for sure.... just get the right part and you should be fine...

Well Wayne with Pelican e-mailed me that this is the right part just a new design with longer tubes. Again, if you look at my pic with the red marks where the splines are, my torsion bars would have to be much longer to engage the splines in the longer tube. Besides, the longer tube almost sticks out of the side of the car (see pic), and that's without the bushings installed.

Ulrich

Are the splines cut the entire length of the tube? That's the only way your t-bar would work. And as you said, the tube about sticks out of the fender. In the pic, it doesn't look like you can even put the cover plate back on.

No, the splines are only in the area highlighted in the pic.

Ulrich

Wayne is mistaken ... the Sway-A-Way parts for '69 - '86 models look just like the pics in the Weltmeister site, here:

http://www.weltmeister.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=372

I have had them on my car for 20+ years ... no problems!

I hope you're able to get a refund or the correct parts. Good luck with it.

Could these be Sway-A-Ways for a 930?

FWIW, I've had SAW adj. spring plates on my car for over 10 years. Not hi-tech, but perfectly adequate.

Sherwood

I do appear to be confused by this, I will have to take a look at them when I get them back here. Installed on your car there, they certainly don't look correct at all.

I'll have Scott (catalog man) take a closer look and post his findings here.

-Wayne

You already have the factory adjustable spring plates. You just need to buy the skinny wrench to to the adjusting with.

-Andy

Thank you Wayne.

Ulrich

OK, I did some investigating and discovered what happened. We ordered the wrong part from our supplier. The part that you received was, as some mentioned here, the G50 part. We will be happy to ship you the correct part and we are sorry for our error -- I'm sure it's maddening. I will change our database so that it doesn't happen again to anybody else.

Sincerely,
Scott

Scott,
Thank you but I have already installed my stock spring plates with Neatrix bushings. At this point please just refund the money.

It's no problem I have ordered from you guys many times before and this was the first glitch.

Ulrich

Scott,
I forgot: I received a return number from Pelican and returned the package via UPS on Thursday.

Ulrich