RSR with vented flairs-What wheels are you using??
 

For those that have an RSR with vented flairs what wheels specs are you using.

I was planning on going with Lindsey Racing Fuchs styled wheels but these fenders are huge... not sure if 9.5 and 11 would be enough to fill the fenders...

Thanks!

For those that have not seen my thread - this is the look that I am shooting for (as far as the body style, not necessarily the same wheels shown in this car)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1170709189.jpg

SmileWavy

For those fenders you NEED to go with centerlocks hubs and centerlocks RSR/917 wheels.

The original magnesium RSR/917 wheels are very expensive ($15,000 for a set).

I am working (together with Zuffenhaus, the shop that is building my car) to get a reasonably priced FORGED replica wheel made.

Still you are looking at north of $6,000 for the centerlock hubs and at least $2-3k for a good set of forged wheels.

PM me or send me an email if you want more info... we are just getting all the pieces of the puzzle together.

You have the widebody flares that require a 11in. in the front and a 14in in the rear. According to GT Racing, where I bought my fenders.

Mark

Sorry yes... mark is correct... these were the specs of the original wheels

911.361.041.00 / 9j x 15

911.361.045.00 / 12j x 15

911.361.043.00 / 10.5 x 15

911.361.033.00 / 14 x 15

You might want to check with Kraftwerkz (www.kraftwerkz.net) to see if they'll sell you a set of their replica 917 wheels.

US$15K for a set!! :eek: :eek: Let me get back in my chair. OUCH!!

errr, guys... not going for period correct here.... and would like to avoid the headaches of finding tires afterwards... you guys are really hardcore :)

Fenders are from GT Racing (arriving today in the next 1/2 hour or so!!!!).

Looking for wheels that can be used under these fenders with tires that are easier to find... Something that looks correct without being original in size (17"of 18" wheels). Still have to be 11 and 14" wide then to fit correctly... but was hoping there were other alternatives out there...

These guys might have something more down your alley:
http://www.ccwheel.com/

What are you after, authentic look or a bad-ass street car?
If the latter I would use 11" wide 18s with 295s in front and 13"-15" wide 18s with 335-395s out back.
An RSR already looks outrageous, why not go all the way?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171566216.jpg

I want the car to look correct... meaning that it should resemble the original car... but I do not want a complete-last-the-last-bolt replica... that means center hubs, 15K –15”wheels!!, tires that are very difficult to find…

I probably made the mistake of going too wide… should have stayed with the RSR narrower look… but too late now.

The photos I have seen of cars like these have the wheels like the photo I posted or some sort of BBS wheel…

I just realized that I am not even at the slippery slope... I am in a roller coaster going up the incline....

Man! I really wanted some Fuch styled wheels under there :(

The problem is that your fenders are 11" and 14" wide.

Any wheel in those sizes is going to be expensive.

BBS wheels are not going to be cheap either.

$15k was for a set of original magnesium RSR wheels. Those are not even good to use on the street (too delicate).

There are cheaper alternatives...

Check these out. These would be around $2,700



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171567968.jpg

and check the other styles here

http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/pages/wheels_cast.html#


http://www.imagewheels.co.uk/pages/prices_cast.html

Thank you Matteo! Looks like I will need your help as far as next steps... if you can drop me an email ( Email id wachuko67@aim.com ) with what you are doing with the setup for your car and, if it is not too much trouble, a list of what parts I will need to be able to accomodate the wheels....

I have the link to the 30 pages of your car here in Pelican... just looking for the part list of what I would need... and you mentioned working with getting a replica wheel made, might as well be part of that too.

Do you ever get that feeling of... ohhhhh ****.... here we go with no net to catch me.... :D

Correct me if I'm wrong , teo, but the wheels are not the end...you still have to buy all the (pricey) centerlock components.

Wachuko, probably the most cost effective would be a set of Lindsay's P2's (up to 17x11) or P3's (up to 17x12). These are made by welding a center section from a 16x6 Fuchs into a 17' aluminum barrel.

You can get them powder coated in black.

Sit down wacuko....this "budget" compromise is gonna run you $2800+ for 4 P2's to $3600+ for the P3's. Not including tires. But they will bolt onto your sc hubs...assuming you can get the offset to push them out to fill your fenders.

See them here: www.lindseyracing.com

Original look? Not a problem.
Go with the 3 piece 17" Fuch replicas, 10&13x17s with 275s and 335s
That should fill it up.

Correct... but the wheels above can be had with normal Porsche 5 lugs hub.

I agree... the centerlock hub+wheel is very expensive.

I am a big fan of the Lindsey wheels (I have them on my car right now in RSR/IROC finish.
BUT the P2s go out to max 11x17 and the P3 to 12x17. Still a little skinny for our man...

EDIT: I just noticed you know that too...

Teo...


What is necessary as far as reinforcement or mods when you start kicking the track out so wide? Doesn't that stress stock components as the geometry was designed for such a narrow car as the SC?


hate to bother you but its has always piqued my curiosity and it may give poor Wachuko more to worry about;)

Thank you... I was just think about the same...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/299650-few-pics-my-rsr.html?highlight=rsr

wachuko...you've probably already looked at the above car in reseasrching an RSR look. He's running 14x17 BBS's on the rear. He may be a good person to talk to as he didn't seem to go as far as Teo is...teo's car is much more radical and race prepped than you appear to be going with yours. At least at this time;)

The differences between the stock cars and RSRs were the 930 trailing arms, coilovers and a rollcage welded on the shock tower points.

If you are sticking with torsion bars you have nothing to worry about not having a cage.
The 930 arms ARE beefier then the Carrera ones but until 2 months ago we were going to use the Carrera arms in my car.

I would not worry too much unless you plan to race the car.

The handling, especially if you are going to use spacers, will not be as "crisp".. plus you are adding a lot of weight back there so I'd at least upgrade to 31 tbars.. but....

Check this link for photos of the original RSR suspensions.... http://www.pbase.com/slidevalve911rsr/911rsr_factory_parts_suspension

Also another Pelican has a wide RSR... m325ix
Check this thread
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/299650-few-pics-my-rsr.html

Dueller

you beat me to it... I also recommended Wac to go with old BBS rims (you can find the centers on ebay and then make your wheel with new halves)...

PM sent to m325ix. Thank you all!!

GT Racing sells 14" rear rsr quarters. Rennspeed sells 15". AIR sells 13" and 15".

I have a set of Forgelines in (11X17 & 9X17) that will probably work for you with 1" front spacers (turbo) and non turbo rear suspention if you're using the 13" rear flares. If you're using the 14 or 15 quarters then you'd need spacers and/or turbo trailing arms. These wheels are set up for the wide body rsr with not that much backspacing. I'd sell them for $1000 plus shipping.

BTW, tires are way cheaper for these wheels than wider ones.

Send me an e-mail if interested.

Craig Backer
craigbacker@hotmail.com

I just reread and noticed you are using the 14" rear quarters. In that case, you'd need 1" spacers front and rear with a non turbo suspension.

Maybe you can get Lindsey to build you a wider wheel than what they advertise?

Has anybody made such an inquiry?

How easy it is to move away from the defined course...

The inspiration for my project is the car in the photo. So I will look for those with the normal 5 lug setup but in 17" instead of 15" simply to make it easier to find tires...

I will need help with the specs of the wheel... Are you going with 17"s? What offset? Does offset changes when going from the centerlock hub setup to the 5 lug setup?I would like to bolt it to the standard SC hub.

I know you might not have all the answers... just asking in case you do or someone else from the forum can chime in.

Thank you as well to those that have sent PM. I was able to find some very useful info on what I want to build.

The car for my inspiration was profiled in Excellence Aug 2006. So I will be going through my pile of Excellence in search for it.

There were 2 RSR versions: 1972-73 based on the homoligation 2.7RS, these cars were T bar suspention, 917 brakes, 9&11x15 fuchs, 2.8L twin plug high butterfly,long hood bodywork.

The 1974-75 were Coil over, centerlock, 3.0 twin plug slidevalve, forged mag 10,5&14x15, short hood bodywork.

The 72 cars had the 9 & 11" flares while the 74 cars had the 11 &14" flares with the vents.


Thank you all again. SmileWavy

IMO I think you should consider selling your 11" and 14" RSR body panels and go with 9" and 11" RSR panels.

It's not too late now. If $$$ is a concern you will be far ahead by going with smaller flares before you begin the installation.

Also, just in case you haven't seen this link, here ya go!
http://www.pbase.com/slidevalve911rsr/911rsr_factory_cars

http://www.vintagewheelsus.com/products.html

Just another option if for the look. They are bolt on pin drive rims.


Whoops, sorry. They are the right look but don't come wide enough. They are even available in multiple diameters.

Thank you for the link. Got it in my bookmarks.

I decided on BBS replicas 11,14x17" with anodized black centers and polished lips. SmileWavy

Have you looked into street tires for those wheels?

You could have Harvey Weidman (Weidman's wheels) weld up some 9" or 10"x15"'s for the front and 13"x15" Fuchs for the rears. These are weld ups. He can do different offsets. Use the Michelin Vintage Racing 255 or 285 for the fronts and 335/15's for the rears.

Doing that now. Sent a few emails to see what is available for the street. Thanks.

A few alternatives... the hard part is finding street tires for the 14"... nothing yet...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171984015.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171984030.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171984055.jpg

Lousy photo manipulating I know... but trying to see how it would look with fuchs...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171986697.jpg

Sorry to revive old threads... but is along the same lines...

1. What would be the part number for the trailing arms folks are recommending I go with???
2. What are the differences from what I have?
3. Why is this change recommended?
4. Is this a bolt on type of change? Or do I need to look into welding mounts?

Just trying to gather all the data/facts before I make any changes....

Watchuco,

Thought I'd give you inspiration with this, my 78 930 that I built. I had the hub adapters machined and the company still has the data files. The wheels are original RSR purchased on Ebay for $1300 for the set;)


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197572933.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197572972.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1197573001.jpg

OK, now you have no excuses (except for the cost)

http://www.pbase.com/slidevalve911rsr/for_sale_rsr_wheels_reproductions

Cheers,
Paul

Paul,

Thank you! But finding tires must be a pita... What are you doing for tires? Are you using the car for the street or track only??

Street car only, often a daily driver.

I grabbed the last set of Yokahama AVS available in 2001.

I no longer own the car (biggest mistake of my life) the new owner uses a hard compound vintage race tire. Not sure which type, he went through several suppliers before he found one that would last a couple of years. If you decide to go the wide 15" style I will contact new owner to find out what he's running.

Cheers,
Paul