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Strut Brace Info and Pics... please

I don't want to start an 'Ultimate Thread' because I'm not sure how they fit into a technical discussion board but... please post pictures of your strut brace setup. I'm thinking about building my own and want to do some benchmarking...

What is good about yours?

What don't you like about it?
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:04 PM
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I have the Weltmeister Cambermeister. It's a piece of bleepety bleep.

I've had to weld it back together so many times it looks like Michael Jackson now. It's too dark to take a detail shot with the digital, but I'll post one for you later so you can see what not to do.
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I have the Weltmeister Cambermeister. It's a piece of bleepety bleep.
I have the same but haven't taken the car to the track yet. What was the problem?

I installed it without a major problems.
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Everything Weltmeister makes is crap. Actually, to say it's crap is an insult to crap, since crap actually serves a purpose.

I just went with a WEVO Camber King. Beautiful piece, available in aluminum or carbon fiber. The kit includes new strut tops that allow for additional camber, and they are monoballs. No pics yet, but trust me, it's hot (I have the CF).
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get the Elph piece or the Wevo

or for cheap - a simple tie bar.
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I have the same but haven't taken the car to the track yet. What was the problem?

I installed it without a major problems.
Well, the Weltmeister is installed alright, but the mounting points at the top of the shock towers actually TEAR. You read that right, the metal has a tendency to tear apart at several points.

I like to think this is due to my emphatic and somewhat spirited driving skill. However, I think this is more due to the fact that my Cambermeister is an insult to crap.

Like I said, I've welded it back together a few times.
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unclebilly,

Here are a couple pictures of mine. I was taking pictures of the fuse box, not the strut brace, but you get the idea.
I welded in a reinforcements on the side of each strut tower and welded a short piece of steel tubing to that. The bar is aluminum.

Very easy to make (if you can veld). Since I had all the materials the cost was zero. I may add a second bar later to get triangulation.


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Here's one I made myself.

The brackets were lasercut, and welded onto my camber plates, then galvanised. (I have a few extras of the laser-cut bits if you are interested.)

The aluminium rods are attached to these with pairs of left- and right handed rod ends, so as to allow for them to be adjusted and shortened.

Total cost was very little!





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Here's my Rennline one. Nice welds, triangulates to the brake booster. Using it with their monoballs. I'm happy. Lou


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I like that Rennline one.

If you're a late-braker, then you'd better make one that is really beefy.

Anyway, here's my Cambermeister that is a lesson in what not to make. I'm going to check into the Wevo and Elephant braces.





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willem your bar is very nice! im probrobly going to make one simmilar to it but probrobly without the triangulated piece
Heres a pic of a bar i made back in the day on my 240sx. i made it out of an old bed frame
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Here are some pics of the WEVO Camber King Carbon Fiber installed in my SC





Here is a closer view of the camber plates that are part of the WEVO Kit:



By the way, I had an Elephant Racing Products strut bar on the car prior to this one (I wanted the monoball plates). It will fit stock strut tops, or the ERP Camber Plate tops, and probably others as well. Nice piece, in Aluminum. I probably will post a for sale ad on Pelican tomorrow.
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Drew,

The Wevo will fit only monoballs, and the ERP will fit both stock and their bespoke monoballs?

How much for your old ERP brace, before shipping?
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I've had a Cambermeister for 6-7 years and have had no issues. I eventually modded it like the one in this pic and have still had no problems.

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The factory seems to have always mounted strut braces to the body, never to the camber plates/bolts.

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Well, the Weltmeister is installed alright, but the mounting points at the top of the shock towers actually TEAR. You read that right, the metal has a tendency to tear apart at several points.

I like to think this is due to my emphatic and somewhat spirited driving skill. However, I think this is more due to the fact that my Cambermeister is an insult to crap.

Like I said, I've welded it back together a few times.
I believe if you think about it ( and search here) you will find that indeed your driving is the culprit. But, not so much as you exert Hans Stuck type pressures on your towers as the fact that you've captured the top of the shock shaft and it has no room to pivot. It has tremendous mechanical advantage (ratio) on the piece in question. I'm surprised the shaft itself hasn't snapped.

Isolate the top nut and your problems will cease, IMO.
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Has anyone tried the one on Steve Wong's site? I know his chips are second-to-none. Just curious how the brace is.


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I'm most likely to build something similar to what Willem did. That is nice work and is pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking.

I hadn't consirered welding to the body but this is probably the easiest way to go.
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