Installed my Steve Wong chip
 

I just got done instelling the Steve Wong chip I recieved in the mail today. I didn't have the patience to wait until tomorrow.

The chip comes nicely packaged in a bubble wrap envelope follow by a little plastic container that prevents it from moving around.
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The installation was pretty straight foward, I didn't remove the seat, just slid it back, raised it to the highest position and worked my way unscrewing the 4 bolts connecting the Motronic Unit.

I cracked the unit open and to my surprise I discovered that the car already had a performance chip installed, take a look:

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The only bummer is now I don't really know what it felt like completly stock. I figured someone had been inside the box when I noticed the scratches of the flat head screwdriver that's needed to pry the metal tabs on the box.

After installing the chip and checking the throttle linkage and operation of the micro switch, I took it out for a drive.

Although I might not feel as big a difference if upgrading from a completely stock setup I still felt some improvement over the Auto Thority chip. The car just feels zippier if that's a word :)

I'll do more drives in the next couple of days but overall I'm happy with the chip so far.

Before I forget, can someone tell me what this cable does that's connected to the throttle? Is it just a throttle stop? Is it connected to some control? Is it supposed to slide?

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Paul,

That is the cruise control cable. I had an Autothority chip in mine when I put my SW chip in. Just better all around performance but you are right in the fact that it is not as dramatic as going from the stock chip.

Wait for it..... Wait for it.........

I know my car has a performance chip in it because I found the stock one when I was sorting through all the goodies that came with the car. Makes me curious on what's in there seeing how I have never looked.

ROFL...the sound of inevitability!http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/roker.gif

I had the same in mine... Noticeable difference in low end torque. Most dramatic change? Fuel economy! Wait until you do a road trip, and you'll be very pleasantly surprised!!!

Welcome to the club.

PatrickB ,
"Fuel economy! Wait until you do a road trip, and you'll be very pleasantly surprised!!!"?
I thought SW chip increase fule, according to SW on the other thread. Which means fuel economy will decrease. Isn't this a basic concept of any kind of performance chip? Am I missing anything here?

Of course when you romp around at fuel throttle, your fuel useage will increase... However, at higway cruise, the map has it leaned out a bit more! On a long trip last summer, I was seeing 28 mpg at constant speeds above 85 mph! Half that trip was at 100 mph! Stock muffler, but cat bypass... With the "other chip" I would be lucky to see 20 mpg... Stock would be around 23mpg under similar conditions... Driving around town, I would normally see around 17 mpg. with SW CHip, I ave. 19 mpg. That's driving conservatively, shifting at 3500rpm.

Just on the edge...... Holding breath.... Can't wait much longer.....

That chip can't possibly work blah blah blah.

Just saving some other people a bit of work.

PM me if you want to sell your old chip.

Nope. Looks like it won't happen today.

Crap.... All the elements in place for a perfect pounce and nothing. Oh well...
By the way I love my wongified 85 3.2 it really isn't a porsche without the chip. We need to get new script made for deck like WONG911 or a 911W... Heah I like the 911W idea
Put chip in runs like - to quote my dad (Striped ass ape) he liked wild kingdom....
Take chip out to test high idle from air leaks runs like crap. Put chip back in (same above mentioned ape)

Bam.......http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat5.gif

PatrickB,
Does that mean we will gain low end and lose some high end?
Also Lorenfb mentioned about reducing safty margin from the detonation point. Does anyone have any info on this?

Howcome everyone keep ditching Lorenfb. If he's wrong, why no one who has knowledge on this prove that he's wrong instead of ditching him?

I had chip before (not SW and not 911). Honestly I didn't feel gain at all, not fuel saving either. In fact after a bunch of chip, air filter, exhaust, I lost fuel economy bad. But there are other factors involve right? I understand that and I have not much knowledge on this so I want to hear from both sides, real experience and knowledge too. Butt dyno.. uhh.. ehh.
Thanks all.

Is Loren always in a crappy mood? He sure doesn't seem like very much fun to be around.

I have read many of Loren's repetitive posts, & I have read Steve Wong's insightful comments. Steve seems to really know what he is doing -- what he says makes great sense.

I happen to love the improved drivabilty with my SW chip. Better mid-range power, in particular. I am very pleased.

Loren,
You got a mouth like a puss infected pimp stick. Id listen to you if you would produce imperical data or something rather then your typical diatribe.

side by side same car Wong chip versus what ever the hell your blabbing about how you can create the same thing......


The old saying goes put up or shut up

Dave, You just didn't wait long enough:D :D

Same old hyperbole for Loren, nothing new to add. Then again he has not been successful with his own chip. So...:rolleyes:

With my 3.2+ SW Chip I was getting an average of 28mpg at 85mph on a 350 mile trip each way. Each car will be somewhat different. On in-town I was getting 20mpg and I never baby the car, it sees 5000-6000 rpm regularly is there any other way.;)

There is a lot to the feel of what the SW chip does for the drivability of the 911 that can't be measured on a dyno or any other way other than the feel of what is happening. We hear it over and over again on this board. Just like comparing beers, the only way to know which is better is to experience the difference. There is a money back guarantee on the chip so what have you got to lose. No one has come up with any destroyed engines to prove the damage that a naysayer among us keeps preaching.http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/...s/beerchug.gif

From lorenfb
You know children NEVER listen to their parentshttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/shake.gif

I have a good supply of Blue Moon to drink during this episode of Chip Wars....

Uh.... because he's wrong?

For further entertaining reading, watch Loren make a fool of himself on the following 123 threads:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=2928116& sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending&exactname=yes &searchuser=lorenfb

Make some popcorn, pour yourself a beer, enjoy!

Seriously, the ball has been in Loren's court for years. He has nothing but BS comments to make about Steve's chips, basically because he tried to market his own line of chips (how's that for hyprocisy?) and failed miserably. Now he's on a vendetta. Frankly, I don't know why the moderators continue to put up with it, unless they're getting a sick thrill from watching the guy melt down.

I also want to add that after installing the SW chip, my car no longer idle hunts. It use to do this prior to the chip. :)

Thanks for the feedback. If you guys haven't seen Paul's photography work - check it out!

Your right. LOvely photos.

Hey HEY! Thanks for the tip. Now THAT's the kind of direction every thread should take when it gets OT.

I come here looking for info and opinions on SW's chips and look what I found!

What a way to make a living! OK, I'll go back to my non glamourous life........plumbing.

P car content......Steve's chips are great.

Me too.

The DME in my 1985 was a 2k unit. The car was built in October, 1984. Motronic number is: 911.618.111.05 (Bosch: 0 261 200 050) and the chip is: 1267355102. I’m a declared “solderphobe” and did not attempt the conversion to 4k myself. A friend in the high-end stereo repair and installation business helped out with the job – he said it was easy and that it could have been done with “a 20” lawnmower blade and a propane torch”. Steve was also very patient with advice on how to approach the 4k conversion.

With Steve’s 84-86 Carrera 3.2 stock chip, the car runs like a new car. The hesitation between about 2000-4500 rpm is just gone. It feels more lively and drivable throughout the range.

Steve’s chips and support are excellent. I’m happy, and consider it a very worthwhile upgrade.

Paul

:D

(I'll add to this thread instead of starting a new one)

Happy Birthday to me! My birthday is this Sunday so I figured it was about time to finally upgrade the chip in my car's DME. Well, I can now say that I am another satisfied customer of Steve Wong. I drove up to Los Angeles from Orange County today to meet him (and his mother) and get the chip from him personally. What a nice guy [Steve, I'm sorry that we didn't have a chance to talk more but obviously both of us were pretty busy].

After I got home, I pulled the old stock chip out and replaced it with the new one he gave me. It was a straightforward install and I was lucky enough to already have the later 4K DME unit so it could not have been easier (someone must have replaced the whole unit in the past).

After the installation I started the car and immediately noticed that the engine idled much more smoothly upon cold start than it ever had with the stock chip and held absolutely steady. I hopped in and took the car for a ride and when it was finally up to operating temperature I played around a little with it. I found that the idle was much smoother than before, the power delivery was noticably smoother and more robust through the low and mid range than before with none of the previous breathless feeling the engine had below about 3400 RPM (like it was leaning out a little), the overall power delivery all the way to the new redline felt great!

Anyway, thanks again to Steve Wong for a great product (and Steve, nice to meet you). SmileWavy

Hi Steve!
My car's running great and I've got the dynos to prove the improvement - somewhere in the long line of previous threads supporting you and debunking (or is it "bunking") Loren!

I need to add my .02 here as well. I received my DMV renewal notice today. A "test only station" was required for the renewal. I was a bit concerned if I would pass or not because of the twin plug set up and a custom chip from SW. I was not worried about the hydrocarbons or the CO% because I had checked it previously and it was okay. What I was worried about was the NOX levels being too high due to the retarded timing for the twin plug set up. Long story short, it passed! The max NOX allowed for the 15mph test are 807 and I passed at 493. For the 25mph test the max allowed is 746 and I passed with 385. I think I could actually bump the CO% up very slightly and the NOX numbers would drop a bit more.
Kudos to you Steve for providing an outstanding product!

"I drove up to Los Angeles from Orange County today to meet him (and his mother) and get the chip from him personally."

Another "Let's bypass Pelican Parts" type of sale! And another one who uses the Pelican
web site a lot but obviously feels that the web site is a "zero cost" utility and buys direct.

Too much!!!!!!

Check out this later thread which indicates an obvious lack of technical credibility
and provides some insightful info about DME ECMs:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/338800-dme-chip-problem.html

Scott, it was great to meet you, yet unfortunate we didn't have time to talk more. Thanks for the feedback! Tom, Daniel, good to hear that everything ticking along great!


Hey Loren, that ***** you smell is coming from your upper lip! BTW, how much are you paying Pelican for spamming your website in your signature?

We already know you lack credibility, but this thread is not about you so piss off.

Loren, thanks for the alternator on my 996, but I have to say, next time the Hergesheimers decide to use one of your rebuilds in my car, I'll pass. Others in this business can do what you did. I don't need your insults and you can mind your own business.

(Pelican has gotten a lot of my money over the years, btw)

Welcome to the club Scott...and happy birthday...what a nice gift....!

Unbelievable!

You direct readers to another thread where you got your a$$ handed to you, and where you haven't been man enough to reply to direct, relevent questions. Instead of stalking this thread, how about you go back and answer the questions? You're doing exactly what I said you always do - ignoring anything that doesn't support your own position.

"Too much" indeed.

I just got my Steve Wong chip in my Carrera finally today, and I am genuinely shocked at the difference. Not so much a change in power, but the smoothness is incredible.

Loren, You should just give up and crawl back under your rock, nobody here is buying what you're selling, and if anyone is lacking credibility, it is you. I think I speak for everyone here on Pelican when I say you can drop your diatribe!

LOL, you are hanging out with the Brits too much Steve ;)

Yeah, and bugger off too:D