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Markusssss 12-12-2014 12:21 AM

numbers
 
Hi Shaun ..I have the same plate what I could find out was that one of the two sets of numbers have to do with baking temp of the paint but I could not figure out what the color was,,, My car is black and I have looked in every crevice to find a different color with no luck....please let me know if you find anything out? here's the picture of my platehttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1418375976.jpg

hugohdg 11-01-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpateman (Post 8097910)
That is the paint code for silver in 1969. Can you post a photo of the badge, and provide me with the VIN please.
Not sure why one starts with 76 and the other with 67. Possibly they were confused by the complexity. I know of a few examples of each code variety.
Silver was always a tricky colour with many changes in codes. Often the code on the badge is different than that recorded on the COA, but they are equivalent.

So now it is 2016. I have tried finding the answer to the question in this thread: what do these numbers mean? I am about to buy a 912 that has the same color tag as in the pictures shown here. It was imported from CA recently. Did you find the answer as to what the codes mean? Thanks!

sixbanger 11-01-2016 03:58 PM

Ask Porsche. They built the car.

djpateman 11-07-2016 05:43 AM

My educated guess is that the upper line refers to the silver paint, with supplier Herberts
The lower line probably refers to the clearcoat; this was a metallic paint with a clearcoat top layer.

djpateman 11-09-2016 04:56 AM

119111254 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
119200437 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
119200478 67 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
119200873 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
119300618 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503 newest
119300864 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503 new
119301483 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503 new
119310372 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
129000363 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
129010359 67 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
Theodore69 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503

djpateman 01-05-2017 05:49 PM

Here is the newest photo; best yet.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1483670924.jpg

hugohdg 01-06-2017 04:26 AM

picture of my car paint codes
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1483709171.jpg

djpateman 04-20-2017 03:26 AM

Another one added today: 119300864 76 81 9101 H & 77 94 0503
Just bought 1969 911S #119300864
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1492687594.jpg

djpateman 04-21-2017 04:18 AM

Well, thanks to Ron Cavallo for this photo of original paint cans we now have proof positive of the correct paint code and the meaning of the two rows of numbers. This confirms the upper line as the silver paint code, and the lower line as the clearcoat. Ron writes: "My car came with extra paint when I bought it new. The can of silver has a code that ends in 9101H and the can of clear coat ends in 0503. There are lead numbers on the cans, 67-81 for silver and 77-94, on the clear coat."
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1492777077.jpg

Shaun @ Tru6 04-21-2017 04:51 AM

Wow! 10 years and a week!

Cairo94507 04-21-2017 06:03 AM

Wow indeed. That is very cool that this mystery appears to be solved. :)

Lyle O 04-21-2017 06:37 AM

Was silver the only color offered with base/clear coat? Wouldn't there be other colors (and double-row numbers) also out there?

djpateman 04-21-2017 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyle O (Post 9559267)
Wouldn't there be other colors (and double-row numbers) also out there?

Not that I have ever seen.

Duc Hunter 04-21-2017 08:52 AM

Wow! Here I thought my Gemini Blue Metallic 75 was a base coat, clear coat car. I guess this means it was not, since it only has the Gemini Blue Metallic paint code line on the A-Pillar tag?

This forums is amazing. Actually old paint cans? Really! Amazing!

djpateman 04-21-2017 10:38 AM

I'm not saying that there were no other base-coat/clear-coat, just that the 1969 silver is the only one I know of with a two line paint code. The 1969 silver was a very unique situation. I am sure that most other metallics were base/clear, but I do not know if that extends back into the 1950's.

ScottOgle 10-17-2017 01:48 PM

BAM! And just like my 11 year-old question was answered
 
By this thread. I have a silver metallic 1969 912. The COA says the color code is 6851. But the door plate has the familiar numbers:

76-81-09101 -H
77-94-0503

I had wondered if someone put their own codes on the car.

The door plate is native Porsche for 1969.

Thanks.
Scotthttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508276917.jpg

djpateman 10-19-2017 08:42 AM

Hello Scott. Glad that we have helped. Can you PM me your VIN to add to my database please. I am trying to track the use of the two code versions.
Dave

xilly 06-22-2018 01:59 PM

this thread is amazing!

I just found a 69 911E (2.0) with the infamous double digit code
The vin of the car is: 119200781
It's an 69 911E with the 2.0 engine



https://www.oldspeed.net/images_voit...lor%20code.jpg

The car was repainted in a blue shade however

William

techweenie 11-09-2020 06:07 AM

69S...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1604934405.jpg

Anyone have a formula to mix this paint? Because I'm bidding on a restoration of a very molested example with no remaining silver, whatsoever.

Arne2 11-09-2020 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techweenie (Post 11095736)
69S...

Anyone have a formula to mix this paint? Because I'm bidding on a restoration of a very molested example with no remaining silver, whatsoever.

Bill, I did a fair amount of reading and research on this as I prepared to return my very early '72T to original silver. (Like many, my car had a really poor color change to red in its past.) I found the LWB years had at least 4, maybe 5 different codes/formulas for silver between these double-codes in '69 and the final change to a stable formula in Sep. '71.

As mentioned early in this thread, the earlier versions of these silvers had discoloration issues, turning a slightly brassy color over time. The issue was finally remedied with the change to 936 partway through the '72 MY.

What I found was that many paint catalogs no longer have formulas for the earlier codes, just the final iteration (936). Glasurit also had (as of mid-2019) a formula for the prior code (925 as used on my car, and through Sept. '71), but the formula was exactly the same as for 936.

From this hint, I came to the conclusion that the actual formulas for Porsche silver when using modern paint that won't discolor later are pretty much all the same. It was a bright silver with very fine grain metallic flakes. I'm pretty sure that if you used any of today's high quality paints that have formulas for either 925 or 936 you'll be fine.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1604941744.jpg

https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...2&d=1573872928


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