Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
This proves it: -16 braided hose through rocker

For anyone considering oil lines through the rocker to a fender cooler or front bumper cooler, AN-16 size braided hose fits OK... Here are some pics.






Old 04-17-2007, 12:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,099
Wow
You really should think about washing your car every now and then

Steve
__________________
1982 SC
Old 04-17-2007, 12:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
Quote:

You really should think about washing your car every now and then


By the way, thanks to Pelicanite Doug Weirenga for guiding me through the install. Here are some more pics:







Old 04-17-2007, 12:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Limbo
 
Slider79SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: CO
Posts: 2,116
Garage
So did you just cut holes and start pushing???
__________________
Big ol built Duramax
Durango R/T 19’ Current Custom project
V8 M3 08’ Built and spoiled
Old 04-17-2007, 12:32 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Up North
Posts: 1,449
Very very nice !!!!

I have a question about size: is AN-16 more comparable to the factory 30mm connectors & lines?

I have a set made up with AN-12 and I'm running into high temp issue Been wondering if its really a size issue since many of the internal passage on the engine are smaller than -12 I think? (Sorry for the hijack)
__________________
87 930 K27HFS/B&B/Twin-Plug... Megasquirted
Old 04-17-2007, 12:35 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
Quote:
Originally posted by Slider79SC
So did you just cut holes and start pushing???
Yeap... I used this thread from Matt (Cali74) to guide me through the cutting. Once the holes are cut, insert one hose through the front wheel well and pull it out the back. The second hose is a little tighter, but it'll come out with a bit of pushing.

Project Update - por-15, oil lines routing...
Old 04-17-2007, 12:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
hobiejoy,

I originally had bought -12 hoses because I figured they would fit fine through the rocker, but then, I found some info here that basically boiled down to this "-12 is OK and should work find on the street, but -16 would be better" Not my words... just pharaphrasing what info I found in the archives. As far as I know, AN-16 is closer in size to the original plumbing.
Old 04-17-2007, 12:46 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
I would rather be driving
 
jpnovak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 9,108
Very nice use of the seat belt mount for the thermostat!

I will be venturing down this road soon. Can you tell me how much hose it took?
__________________
Jamie - I can explain it to you. But I can not understand it for you.
71 911T SWT - Sun and Fun Mobile
72 911T project car. "Minne" - A tangy version of tangerine #projectminne
classicautowerks.com - EFI conversion parts and suspension setups. IG Classicautowerks
Old 04-17-2007, 12:50 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
Good catch on the seat belt mount bolt

I have to make one more hose, the one from the thermostat to the oil tank. Since my tub is a '70, it doesn't have the indentation to run the hoses parallel, so I have to run them over the wheel well. To make matters worse, I'll be running wide wheels 17X11 so I'm considering running the oil tank hose over the oil tank and around with a 180 connector (plan to do this one tonight). So to answer your question, I bought 36 feet of hose, I should have about 4 - 6 feet left when I'm done... better to be long then short...
Old 04-17-2007, 12:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Designer King
 
Paulporsche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Toronto, ON Canada
Posts: 5,499
Looks nice! I'm just a little concerned about the hole @ the bottom of picture 3. There is no grommet and this looks like it might be a wear point.

If others know this will not be a problem, please chime in.
__________________
Paul
Yellow 77 Sunroof Coupe/cork interior; 3.2L SS '80 engine/10.3:1/No O2; Carrera Tensioners; 11 Blade Fan; Turbo tie rods; Bilstein B6; 28 tube Cooler; SSI, Dansk; MSD/Blaster; 16x7" Fuchs/205/50 Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s; PCA/UCR, MID9
Never leave well enough alone
Old 04-17-2007, 01:02 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
Sorry, I should've mentioned earlier... I'm not completely done with the installation. I plan to use some wrapping tape, rubber, grommets and possibly some foam to seal up the holes.
Old 04-17-2007, 01:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
the the is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 8,279
I don't think I'd use foam, it tends to hold moisture a long time when it gets wet.
Old 04-17-2007, 01:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
Hmmm.... I was thinking of using the "expanding" foam type you shoot from a can. Is the moisture issue for this type of foam as well?
Old 04-17-2007, 01:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Back in New England!
 
MattAlpha's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 1,008
Garage
Send a message via AIM to MattAlpha Send a message via MSN to MattAlpha
After the foam cures you will need to seal it to keep the moisture out. Once sealed it should work great.

Great work and thank you for the pictures,
Matt
__________________
'78 RoW 911SC Targa converted to a '86-like 3.2L Cab (w/930 body & No A/C) Custom subframe integrated into AutoPower Half Cage, Euro Ride Height, Turbo Tie-Rods, WeltMeister Bump Steer Kit, Sway-Away 26mm Rear Torsion Bars, Koni Adjustable Shocks and Strut Inserts, Two Bar Rennline Strut Tower Brace, Poly Motor Mounts, WEVO Trans Mounts, Modified Conical K&N Intake, ER PB A-arm bushings and 17" CUP3 Wheels. Steve Wong Chip!
Old 04-17-2007, 01:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
the the is offline
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 8,279
Quote:
Originally posted by SoCal70RSR
Hmmm.... I was thinking of using the "expanding" foam type you shoot from a can. Is the moisture issue for this type of foam as well?
Yeah, I think there are moisture issues with that stuff. I suppose you could try to seal it somehow, but it doesn't seem worth the effort, and if water gets past the sealant it would probably be trapped even longer.

I think a lot of people view using expanding foam on a car as a bit ghetto, I agree. I personally wouldn't use it if I owned your beauty!
Old 04-17-2007, 01:43 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
Thank you both for the tip on the foam...

The expanding foam is appealing because you can center the hoses where you want them and let the foam cure. Then add a layer of something else ?? to prevent moisture. If anyone else can think of a good way to seal these openings, I'm all ears.
Old 04-17-2007, 02:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Limbo
 
Slider79SC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: CO
Posts: 2,116
Garage
How about one of those replacement CV type boots that you could put around the oil lines and then glue the halves together? Then you could seal the end with RTV under the mounting lip and then screw it to the chassis?
__________________
Big ol built Duramax
Durango R/T 19’ Current Custom project
V8 M3 08’ Built and spoiled
Old 04-17-2007, 02:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
B Goode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Redondo Beach CA
Posts: 61
I really like your set up. Does that thermostat have a built in pressure relief? I was thinking of using the same one in the future.

Grady was adament about needing a pressure relief, in this thread about front oil coolers: Additional Oil Cooler 1975 2.7
Old 04-17-2007, 02:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 697
The thermostat doesn't have a pressure relief valve.

It may very well be a problem down the road... not really sure. I've seen others use this type of thermostat and have not heard of a problem. I bought the thermostat from Patrick Motorsports and there was no mention of a pressure issue, not that he "had" to tell me either... what he did say is that they run this thermostat on many of their cars.
Old 04-17-2007, 02:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
klaucke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: US
Posts: 1,621
You could use some neoprene to seal the holes, either in a similar manner to the black trim you have added now, or around each oil line. You can buy neoprene pipe insulation at your local home improvement store. It will not absorb or hold moisture, and the flexibility will be a great asset for a good seal as the lines creep a bit under oil flow and temp changes. For example, you could slide some neoprene insulation around each tube where it enters the rocker and secure with a hose clamp or zip ties on the outside. From my experience, the expandable spray foam isn't durable in this type of application.

Old 04-17-2007, 03:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:38 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.