Euro?

[Sapporo Guy]

Ok, I've been searching the forums here (found lots more good info on everything else but ...) just can't seem to find an answer beyond, heights and head lights ...

What is the difference between a Euro car and US based ones?
Are Euros more valuable, say in the US?

Sorry for the newb question

[onlycafe]

americans are fatter and heavier than europeans[i mean the rear bumpers].

[Gogar]

Euros aren't as obsessed with imposing their socio/political views on others.

Oh, wait, this isn't OT.

Euros usually have higher compression ratios.
Euros usually have side markers on the front quarter.
Euros have less restrictive emissions and exhaust. (i.e., no cat/smog pump.)
Euros have less collision protection (and less weight) in the doors. ( I'm guessing.)
Euros have different color lenses in the turn/brake lights.
And as said above, Euros don't have the ugly huge bumper overriders.

That's all I know. Someone else knows more.

[Sapporo Guy]

Ok, looks like the VWs and Ps have similar set ups.

I actually prefer the yellow turn signal lights on the back of cars, less confusion as to if it's a brake light going on or just a turn signal.

bumper overrider? Not sure what that means ... looks like I'll have to post a few pictures to double check this.

BTW, I thought Euro's also had hairier legs???

[lpsalsaman]

I've spent a combine time of 7 years station in Germany back in the 80's. While I was there I wanted to buy a 911 to bring back to the U.S. and started to learn about what to do in order to have one to be DOT/EPA approved. Well, what I learn is that Porsche made the 911's the same for Germany and U.S. but with some little differences. The differences are for models between 76 to mid 80's:

The Euro model do have more HP than the U.S. (due to autobhan speeds). No Cat at that time, but it could be added to change from Euro to U.S. specs.
Euro model have the amber, red and white for the back lights and U.S. were all red with white for reverse.
The Euro had the front lights H1 and H4 type lights while the U.S. had sealed beams.
Euro model on the front bumper only had 2 blinker lights and black strip were the side markers are on the U.S. model.
Euro model and U.S. model do have 5 mile per hour bumpers but the black bolsters are smaller in the euro version. Security glass DOT approved for Euro and U.S. Also the speedo was different with the Euro model in Kilometers and the U.S. with miles only. However, the 911 when I was there was the easiest model to change to U.S. specs because Porsche made them basically the same for both Germany and U.S. Much has change since then, and the car is now made very different from the original model. Emissions standards are now also implemented in Europe and the T.U.V is more demanding that once was. However, the U.S. version still more strict as to EPA is concern. I'm pretty sure that you can not just change a euro version as easy as it used to be, because specifications have change a lot since the 80's.

[DaddyGlenn]

Originally posted by Sapporo Guy
...{snip}...Are Euros more valuable, say in the US?... {snip}

No. the US versions typically carry a slightly higher price in the U.S.

I don't remember where I first read it but some how it made sense to me that "drivers" purchase Euro versions and "collectors" purchase US versions.

BTW, mine is a RoW (Rest of World = Euro) and I think previous posts have about covered the differences.

[Sapporo Guy]

Thanks!

My ride is a '83 SC (non turbo 3.0) with a half arse AC delete.

While looking for AC delete on the forums I came across this thread.
It helps a little but ... these comments here have been a bit more useful since I was looking for more superficial comments than just HP and EPA standards.

link to EURO vs SC page

I live in Japan so ... I get to use km