My 1973 911t project.

[lyon]

Hey,
Check it out. I bought this car in May.

It's a 1973 911T that has been in storage since 1984. I have replaced the fuel lines, rebuilt the calipers, new brake lines, plugs. It runs suprisingly well.

I need some advice, the clutch does not go into gear when the car is running. It grinds, I have not forced it or anything lke that, but I am wondering if anyone knows what I need to do to get the thing in gear.


I would like to get my car on the road before the snow flies. I am planning to have it painted this winter the original color and ready for spring.
thanks,
Lyon

[911quest]

Nice score those wheels are worth a third of what you probably paid for the car nice!!

[sakurachen]

I like it .just want know how much?

[lyon]

yeah, the gas burners are pretty cool. not my favorite, but I understand they are the lightest wheels available for the 911. I bought the car from a guy who has a car museum, he owns two or three hundred cars, including a Dodge Daytona that he says is worth a lot. He is into American cars, he has a 1978 Corvette with 50 miles on it, brand new, with the plastic still on the steering wheel.
I think I got a bargan on this one. I paid 10 g's. It will take a lot of work to get it up to speed, but it is in amazing shape, the body has no rust, the interior in mint, the original Blaupunkt radio. It has been a fun project so far, I just want to get the clutch fixed, any help?
peace.
Lyon

[Evans, Marv]

You probably could have found out what to do with the clutch by doing a search, but here goes.
The clutch is probably stuck to the flywheel from being clamped there so long. This happens when the cars are left in storage for a long time. I can only speak to this as related to my 912, which used to get the clutch stuck everytime I'd let it set for awhile.
You need to put the rear of the car (or the whole car) up on stands. Start it with the tranny in gear (you might want to start it in neutral & warm it up a bit & turn it off). I always used 2nd gear - seemed to work best. Give it a slight amount of gas & apply the parking brake (assuming it's adjusted right), or you can use the brake pedal. When the clutch breaks free, you will probably hear a decently loud "twang" sound. After that you can drive it. If it doesn't work the first time, repeat.
Good luck.

[lyon]

Marv,
Thanks man, I appreciate it. I will try that.
I talked to a local mechanic and he said that I could also get it out in the street, put it is second, hold the clutch down, start it up and let it out.
He said that would unstick the flywheel.
Hopefully I will be driving this car this weekend.
peace
Lyon

[rsNINESOOPER]

I don't mean to pee in your cheerios but 10g is a lot to pay for a car in that condition......... just my opinion

check the brakes before you start driving this car as they will probably need attention. Flush and bleed the brake system with fresh fluid and it would not be a bad idea to put new flex lines at all four corners before you flush and bleed. Cars that have sat long enough in a damp environment to cause the clutch disk to seize to the flywheel will most likely have issues with the brakes.

Good luck with the new project-

[randywebb]

Agreed. Maybe it is better than it looks underneath...

[ruf-porsche]

Originally posted by lyon
Marv,
Thanks man, I appreciate it. I will try that.
I talked to a local mechanic and he said that I could also get it out in the street, put it is second, hold the clutch down, start it up and let it out.
He said that would unstick the flywheel.
Hopefully I will be driving this car this weekend.
peace
Lyon

Marv has the correct procedure for unsticking a clutch.

If you going to drive it on the street to try and unstick the clutch, get it started in gear, and when it is rolling take it out of gear and slam on the brakes. Clutch will not be working when you take it out of gear so just move the gear shift lever to the neutral position. Be ready to shut it down if the clutch doesn't become unstuck.

[lyon]

Thanks guys. I will get the car up on Jack stands tomorrow morning and do as you suggested.

btw/ I completely rebuilt the brakes, calipers, lines, flushed the fuel tank, coated it and repaced the fuel lines.

It is should be ready to go tomorrow.

I will let you know how it goes.

[lyon]

Allright, I got the the garage early this morning, put the car up on 4 jack stands. started it up, let t warm up a bit. shut it down then started it in second gear. got the wheels spinning, put on the parking break and bingo. Worked like a charm. The sound was subtle, not twang, but I could feel it, kind of like cracking a vertebrae in your back that needed adjusting.

I'm taking my first drive in this car today, on this cloudy, windy fall like day in Wisconsin.

[lyon]

Wow,
Yesterday was fun. The car is great. I drove about 20 miles, the engine is strong. I need to replace a tail light, the brakes need some more love, new muffler and rebuild the heat exchangers, timing and valve adjustment, a little tune up and she will be an amazing car.

The paint is original, it is flaking off a bit, is there any way to restore the original paint? Here are a few picts.

Brother in law and friend Trevor checking out the engine.


My little nephew looks like a 911 fan.

[c911s]

Nice car
I would take the post of your paying too much with a grain of salt......
You have the car, if the price was reasonable for you, great deal, a low mileage, rust free car is hard to find. The paint can probably be brought up with a bit of work.
I bought a 73.5 CIS last fall for 2000 more than I wanted to pay for it, or thought it was worth; but, I have the car.
I will save that amount in 2 years of collector's insurance rates. Every time I wash it and dry the water beads is a sensual experience - that is worth it to me; plus it runs like a bat....

[lyon]

I do not feel that I paid to much for the car, in fact, I feel that I got a great deal on this car. Of course it will take a lot of work to get it to where I want it, but that is fun to me. This is my first 911, I have wanted one since I was a kid and now I have the opportunity to work on one, learn about it and improve upon it. I just had a son a few months ago, I would like to keep this car and teach him to drive stick with it.
I also see this car as a great investment. Improving upon it, keeping it original, and keeping the miles low, I believe it will increase in value over the next few years. If not, who cares, I will really enjoy every second behind the wheel.

[Bobboloo]

Great find. Judging by the interior I think you got a great deal. With new paint this car is worth twice what you paid for it.

When you get it re-painted make sure that you use a quality paint like Glasurit. Do a glass out and trim removed re-paint.

Get a sample pint of the new paint before you spray. Have a little shot on a test panel and compare it to some paint that hasn't been exposed to the sun like under the hood for a match.

Before you take the car to the painter remove the the seals that wrap around the Targa roof to Targa bar and the Targa roof to windshield frame very carefully. These two seals are very expensive and the one around the Targa bar is no longer available. You have to substitute a later version. You can cut the Targa window and windshield seals for ease of removal. These are still available and only cost about $300 for the pair.

When it's time to replace the glass find someone who specifically does the Targa rear window. These are very difficult to replace and a professional glass installer probably won't be able to do it unless he's experienced doing it before.

Save all the original trim pieces when removing. These are no longer available and the replacement pieces don't look the same.

P.S. If it's determined that the doors are to be removed for repaint, which may not be the case judging by the interior, pull the pins for door removal if the door gaps are already good but if the jambs are good and you get the color match right door removal won't be necessary.

[jkarolyi]

10K for a rust free, original paint car in a desirable color with believable 39K miles (look at those seats...still have the original horizontal indentation in them!) and gas burner wheels is a great deal. It takes talent to discover a diamond in the rough like this.

>I believe it will increase in value over the next few years. If not, who cares, I will really enjoy every second behind the wheel.

Exactly the right attitude to have with these cars. Congrats on your purchase.

[berettafan]

wow look at that interior!

[lyon]

Thanks guys, I am happy others can see the potential in this car. My ex girlfriend sure couldn't.
So what do you think the price of these things will be in 5-10 years in museum quality condition?

[randywebb]

Even if it was too much, that won't matter if you have 20 years of fun. It only matters if you are trying to flip the car.

[lyon]

20 years of fun/ $10,000= $500 a year for fun
that is pretty cheap.