Can anyone here run an engine# to check stolen or not?
 

I have a line on a 3 liter and am waiting for the engine#. It is not in a car, so to be prudent: anyone here willing to run the # through whatever system police would use. I am not about to get into that mess knowingly!

Is the engine in Miami? Just curious because if it is the guy has been evasive providing specific details. If it's the same guy.

Donnie,

The system is NCIC (National Crime Information Center) run by the FBI. You can read about it on the FBI site. You can access it through a friendly local police or sheriff department.

I say “friendly” because they need to know you and be willing to do some work if it comes up “hot.” The issue the officials have to deal with is they don’t want the crooks to be able to see if their stolen cars/engines, etc. are listed. Another is if there is a hit, they are required to follow up. Budget issue in some jurisdictions.

You need to do this in person. I recommend you have the seller’s name, address, contact info, engine number, type number and more. Can you get the VIN of the original chassis?

As a citizen, I go to the top level and explain what I want and who I am. Of course my involvement goes back 35+ years. I helped jail quite a number of Porsche thieves with helicopters, wires, long lenses, grand juries, FBI, State, local and more.

Go search on Wayne’s great success recovering the Type 912 and even more exotic engines a year or few ago.

It is all of our collective responsibility to be pro-active preventing Porsche theft and help putting the crooks in jail. You are correct; question the source of the engine, require documentation and check NCIC.

Best,
Grady

I have a few nighbors that are police and very helpful within the community.

Rick-yep thats him! We'll see if he comes through on the engine #. I'll try a different angle.

The '78 in Miami with the tranny? I've been trying to get details too!

funny how that works!

Does it have a TechArt emblem on it?:rolleyes:

not that I can see in the pics, why?

That was a joke or stab at the thread regarding an engine that wound up in TechArt's hands that shouldn't have. There is a thread on it around here.

Dave

found that thread:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=350314&highlight=TechAr t+stolen

I think the engine in Miami is a fraud I have been trying for a week to get any info location or return calls but nothing.

you and everyone else. I think he wants someone to offer to pay him to ship it. Then he runs with the money, that's why he won't respond about a local sale.

Well if this “sale” is a scam, why not catch the crook? We can have a Pelican version of MSNBC’s “To Catch a Scam Predator.”

Let’s find a US Postal Inspector and a US Attorney and set up a sting with a Cashier’s Check via US Mail. All we need is official instruction and supervision. The perp could see 20 years in a federal prison.

Email me the info and I’ll try.

There are several prosecutors and many attorneys on the Forum who can help. Quite a number of Pelicans have posted (on OT) about scamming the Nigerian scammers.

Best,
Grady

He wanted to go by western union for payment if that helps. So that it would be safe for everyone. But no other info.

Your kidding right ,this is the banana republic of Miami Dade county none of the local officials give a crap about that here. My neighbor just had some one try to scam her over the INTERNET with a bogus cashiers check for her house nobody in local law enforcement cared less. had my pick up stolen twice got it back due to lojac they wouldnt even dust it for prints when I asked the said they were too busy and just be happy I got it back.

The postal inspectors are a different breed than most cops, they will research, and follow up on ALL issues. They are some of the best investigators out there.

How is western union safe? Do they do escrow service, or guarentee you will get the product?

It's not. Western Union is the least safest form of transaction. Even Western Union admits it on their website. It is safe for sending money to people you know (students, relatives, etc.). Strangers? Say SmileWavy to your cash...


http://scams.flipshark.com/westernunion.html

I'll second that. You pretty much have to be a bank robber or murderer to attract attention of law enforcement here in SoFLA. Scam capitol of the U.S. as far as I'm concerned.

When I was told western union so it would be safe is when I figured it was a scam

It is not here Noah, it is on Craigslist, miami.

Ken,

No, I wouldn’t put the onus on the over-worked/uncaring Miami/Dade law enforcement. I think I can do this from here.

Ok, how to proceed?

In the next few days I’ll talk to my local (Denver) Postal Inspector. I’ll also contact our Colorado US Attorney General.

The good news is that it is represented as having both the engine and transmission rebuilt here in Denver. I know everyone so I can easily check the validity of the claim.

I’m willing to spec $1600 for an SC engine & trans if as represented. I don’t need one but someone will. That is an inexpensive price.

If a scam, the seller won’t accept a US Postal Money order delivered by Certified US Mail. I suspect the Postal Service can flag the MO to require better than normal ID.

Another thought is to have my MO and the engine/trans delivered to a local shop for a PPI. Again, if it is a scam he won’t go for it.

Who are reputable Porsche shops in Miami/Dade? Please email me or post.

If a valid sale a Pelican may have a project, if a scam, let’s put the crooks behind bars. I’m sure Craigslist is willing to work with the Feds.

Best,
Grady

(Noah, the link is above on mid p. 1)

This is getting interesting! Get em boys!

That's what I am saying. I already have more engines than cars, but I couldn't resist this one.

Go get 'em Grady!!

Grady,

The engine, along with the same story is on ebay right now, item #130124162467. I asked if my local buddy could come see it, here is the response:

"Sure. He may call me at 307-235-8552, my office. It is at my lot in Glenrock currently."

This looks like fun

Best Independent Porsche Shop in Miami:
Scott Findley Motorsports
5750 Progress Road
S. Miami, FL 33143-3650
305-661-6479

Shop is just off S. Dixie Hwy, N. of Kendall and S. of Coral Gables.

Best of luck! Lot of "Slippery Dicks" in Miami... better go in packing some serious "Heat". I never take less than my S&W .40... with my PPKS as backup!

Upon entering the engine # in the NCIC Article File, the
computer will come up with a "hit" or no hit. If a "hit", it
will indicate all pertinent data, ie; S/N of engine, code ID
for agency that entered the record, (that's the jurisdiction
where it was reported stolen), and date of record.
The inquiring agency, (your cop) then sends a request for
verification of the hit, and waits for entering agency to research and verify that item wasn't previously recovered.
Now, if still hot, your cop picks up the engine and sends a "locate" message through NCIC to the agency of record, and they notify the owner of the recovery.
The entering agency then removes the "hit" from NCIC.
There's a little more to it than that, but in nutshell, that's
what I did for Mpls. PD/Auto theft for 9 years.

Motor is not in Miami. Seller advertised on Craigslist in multiple markets. Seller is in WY. Motor is in WY.

From the eBay add:

On Jun-13-07 at 11:02:38 PDT, seller added the following information:

The VIN of the Porsche was 911 821 1271. And engine number is 911 110 169 - 4R.

Number shows to be to a family clinic:

The Family Clinic, LLC
1315 East "A" Street
Casper, WY 82601
307-235-8552

The buy it now is $3500, not quite the deal that was advertised on craigslist.

George

Anytime you hear "send me the money by Western Union" run far, far away...

I f it is the guy in Wyoming I am thinking of I don't think he is a thief, but he is very strange. I would still be very carefull but you may be surprised to find out it is legit. I just sold a 70 tub on e-baythat is not in the best shape usual rust but straight and the winning bidder was from Brazil and wanted it shipped to Mountvideo Uruguay.
I thought it was a scam because shipping cost wis going to be $5,500 from Colorado and the high bid was 1,275 he paid me 1,310 via pay-pal the extra was to cover the pay-pal fee's and he is taking care of the shipping. The guy is nuts and I gave him several oportunities to back out.

I think the guy in miami took the guys pic from ebay at some point, notice the craigslist guy does not use the photo with the dog. Also the ebay seller was fine with a friend taking a look, and provided a phone #.

I agree, I do not think the Miami CL lister is the same person as the Wy Ebay lister. We should find a Miami Pelicans with some big friends and ask to view it.

Although I found it strange that in the Miami Craigslist ad it stated the hood of the crashed vehicle was kept in place to protect the engine from rain and snow. I've been in Florida for about 13 years now and I don't remember it snowing in Miami !!!????

A lot of white powder, but not snow!

Absolutely! A lot of "Blow", but no "Snow"...

Finley is good also but doesnt like working on the older 911's thats why I use eurpean auto center Louis Gil 305-256-4031