Any S/T ST fender flares on a 74 Carrrera?

[Yellowbird RS]

I'm looking solution to add 1 -1.5" to my front fender any idea?
pics. if you have done some mods.
Thanks!

[rdane]

Another option without adding flares. We hand dollied the front fenders and rolled the lip out on my SC. Got well over an inch of extra space. No extra metal added to the flair itself

I have run 9x16 Fuchs up front on this fender with slicks and lots of room. 8x16 944 rims are on in both pictures with 225/50/16 street tires.

[Yellowbird RS]

great look!
Do you have any pics. for the mod before the paint?
thanks!

[gestalt1]

is this how thw factory modified the fenders on the 911r and st? i thought they were flares welded on rather than modifing the existing sheetmetal. i don't think the factory race fenders ever looked as good as the work on your car dane!

[TRE Cup]

gestalt1 is correct: the factory did indeed weld on fender extensions up front and it looked it. The openings were not symetrical like the turbo flares

Rdane's solution is much more elegant but not "period correct"

[rdane]

Dave at TRE has a better idea than I about any of this stuff and of course the original ST cars had additional flares added in metal or Glass.

Here is a link to some of my posts on my car.

The build continues, part 5 or same old stuff..

Here is a link on the ST flares

The build continues, part 5 or same old stuff..

talked with Ron Maxwell who did the restoration on the facory #2 ST. He told me they were 9" flares and on that car, #2, the original fenders were fiberglass which they used again and did not repalce them.

He also thought that a hammer and dolly in the right hands could get 2 more inches out of an SC fender and make it a close copy of the ST for function. Ron has gotten 2" out of the SC fenders many times but wasn't looking for an obvious looking flared fender. I'll let you know how it all goes when my project its done.

One of the things Ron mentioned was many, many of the earlier cars (ST time period '71/'72?) used the hammer and dolly treatment to put bigger wheels and tires on the 911. With all respect to Dave and his comment, while it may not be a "historically" correct way to build an ST clone I believe the hammer and dolly is very "period" correct way to get a bigger fender up front. A close look at the race cars of the time will show as many or more hand dollied fenders as the ST flares.

While they certainly had the skill just not many guys going to the extra effort back then to finish them like Eurotech did mine. Anyway the idea came from Ron Maxwell and his experiences with the early race cars and his thoughts after restoring #2 ST.

I also saw another California street car with similar dollied flares after I had built mine. May be Dave can add some history? Just guessing but once the factory flares (ST RS RSR) were available in the early 70s I suspect adding the factory parts was easier and more effective.

[TRE Cup]

Sorry Rdane- wrong choice of words with period correct. I should have said non factory !

There were quite a few mods done by club racers during the 911's reign on the tracks. Some were just massaged for more clearance, some crude "can opener" style, and others well finished as r dane's blue bomber is. And of course the fiberglass route.

(AIR was probably the largest contributor to the body conversions in the Porsche community. )

The 1974 911 that came with flares from the factory was the RS 3.0 and Iroc RSR. (The actual RSR came with fiberglass flares bonded to steel fenders and quarter panels- a very time consuming process, but the rules stated (loosely translated) that the flare was to be an extension of the standard fender (the RS 3.0)

The RS 3.0 / Iroc RSR has steel fenders with hand welded flares (lap welded too i might add) that were hammer dollied to be pretty smooth. The fronts and rears were very much the same as the 73 RSR. With the exception that the fronts were shorter on the leading edges to accomodate the G series (short hood) styling change.

When compared to a turbo flare, these are fairly crude looking with an elongated opening and a folded edge. Each car varies slightly due to its hand assembled nature. The width is comparable to the 75-94 turbo , commonly known as 9 and 11 inch flares

When looking to replicate a RS 3.0/ IROC RSR, one should consider the extra work needed to massage turbo steel flares into the correct shape. It could make a difference to you.

To others, not such a bid deal to go to the expense capturing this detail.

This car posted here has standard turbo flares

[TRE Cup]

Yellowbird RS

If you do not have access to a decent metal man (check the local hot rod customizers; these guys can do amazing things!) Then consider using a pair of SC rear flares on the front. The left rear becomes the right front, right rear > left front.

You can narrow the flare enough, before welding on, to get your 2" extension that you are looking for

[wesayso]

Originally posted by TRE Cup
Yellowbird RS

If you do not have access to a decent metal man (check the local hot rod customizers; these guys can do amazing things!) Then consider using a pair of SC rear flares on the front. The left rear becomes the right front, right rear > left front.

You can narrow the flare enough, before welding on, to get your 2" extension that you are looking for

I would love to see pictures of that mod. Are there any?