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"SC" DOES stand for Super Carrera: The Official Document

This is for all you non-believers who claim they have never seen the SC used as Super Carrera in an "official" document!

This page on Porsche official website has been around for a while and a number of Pelicans posted it here before. However, it has been increasingly difficult to navigate through their website to locate this specific page (why is it now under "Personalisation and service" and not "Porsche History"?), so I've decided to take a screen shot and upload it here for future reference.

Copyright, courtesy, etc. of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, 2007.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1188599482.jpg

Just for kicks, this is from the same page on German Porsche website. Apparently, "Super Carrera" is "Super Carrera" in German as well:

http://www.porsche.com/germany/accessoriesandservices/classic/world/models/roadvehicles/1978-911/

Quote:

Der Kursverfall des Dollars bedeutete für Porsche eine harte Bewährungsprobe, aber der damalige stellvertretende Vorsitzende des Porsche Vorstands, Heinz Branitzki, machte Mut: “Es wird immer Leute geben, die eine Vorliebe für außergewöhnliche Dinge haben, sei es für die teure Uhr, die exklusive Krawatte oder eben den besonderen Sportwagen.” Ob es sich bei dem besonderen Sportwagen aber weiterhin um einen 911 handeln würde, war ungewiss, denn die Gerüchte vom Ende des Elfer wurden immer lauter. Mit dem Modelljahr 1978 war der Carrera aus dem Programm gestrichen worden, das neue Modell SC hielt abgesehen vom Turbo alleine die 911er Fahne hoch. Die Buchstaben SC erinnern an einen Typ 356 mit der gleichen Zusatzbezeichnung und bedeuten so viel wie Super Carrera. Die Karosserie mit den breiten hinteren Kotflügeln entsprach dann auch dem ehemaligen Carrera Format. Unter der Motorhaube steckte ein 3-Liter-Motor, der mit 180 PS um 20 PS schwächer war als im Carrera, aber hauptsächlich wegen Maßnahmen zur Abgasentgiftung in Form von Sekundärlufteinblasung, die bei Exemplaren für den US-Markt noch um einen Abgaskatalysator ergänzt wurden.
Zum Serienumfang gehörte nun eine automatische Heizregulierung. Die hinteren Seitenfenster konnten nicht mehr ausgestellt werden

PS. Why was the latest SC thread (Standard Car) closed? :rolleyes:

Hmmm...

If I recall there was a book, titled 1984. In it there was a ministry of information or something. When history didn't align with the present, they would re-write history. Something tells me someone re-wrote history as SC stands for sub-Carrera.

What happened was Porsche wanted to create a Carrera to out do their current Carrera. A super-Carrera if you will. However the technology didn't exist at the time. So they had no choice but to introduce and maintain the sub-Carrera or SC for short until such time the technology became available. This new technology became available in the early 80's and resulted in the Carrera platform of 1984-1989. By that time, however there was a mellowness at Porsche and a desire to brag with performance rather than words so they dropped the "super" and kept it simply Carrera. :D

Carlton

I kinda doubt that 'sub' tag....nobody would launch a product a call it 'sub whatever'. Pass me whatever you are smoking!

never understood why Porsche went backward from the 76-77 European Carrera 3.0 when they introduced the SC in the States. C3's had 20 more hp, a 930 turbo case and crank, etc.

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3456594)

never understood why Porsche went backward from the 76-77 European Carrera 3.0 when they introduced the SC in the States. C3's had 20 more hp, a 930 turbo case and crank, etc.

im sure emissions had a lot to do with it.

Won,

Thanks. It's good to be Super! And a Carrera to boot...

Mike

I thought it was common knowledge that SC stood for Super Carrera.

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3456594)

never understood why Porsche went backward from the 76-77 European Carrera 3.0 when they introduced the SC in the States. C3's had 20 more hp, a 930 turbo case and crank, etc.

Yeah, exactly... and then they went even further backwards with the '84 Carrera and those rod-bolts made of pasta. . .. throttle response only an enviromental would like... oil leaching valve guide.... Sad, isn't it?

..but at least they had the good sense to demote it to just "Carrera."

:cool:

MUHAHAHAhahahahahaha. . ...

You WILL be assimilated...resistance is futile.

Plus Carreras....the ones that ARE all Carreras....ya know 84 and up to who dafuchcares.........are big fat pigs.....

I hate to burst your bubble, but anyone can edit Wikipedia files. ;)

For the record, SCs are great cars ... true work horses that can really do it all.

That is a recent document. There is no period documentation referring to the SC as a super carrera. Why is that?

That´s all fine and dandy and the SC is a good car, I am sure.

The 3.2 however, does not need the superlatives as it is a better car. :D

It,s just called a Super Carrera because it breaks headstuds faster than a normal Carrera ;)

Muuuuhahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa.....

I always thought SC stands for Sport Coupe... but now that I know, Super Carrera sounds funky; but hey, Germans...

Thanks

I think that "Porsche document" was authored by some guy named Leland Pate. Wasn't he the one that started all that SCWDP silliness after owning a 350Z (of course an SC is going to seem like the best car on the planet after owning a Z). Then, he jumped ship and sold his SC and bought a 993. Isn't that the way things developed??? Does he still even have a Porsche in the stable?

Anyway, it can be fun to believe in fairy tales--the Loch Ness Monster, the Tooth Fairy, Tinkerbell, "Super Carrera", SCWDP, hurry everyone clap if you believe in fairies...

Mike

who said anything about Wikipedia?

He found it on the PAG site.

Was the 356 SC referred to as a Super Carrera?
-Chris

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Originally Posted by Mr9146 (Post 3456932)

I hate to burst your bubble, but anyone can edit Wikipedia files. ;)

For the record, SCs are great cars ... true work horses that can really do it all.

The source isn't Wikipedia, I'm not writing a report for one of my engineering classes ;)

Current link to the page: http://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/classic/world/models/roadvehicles/1978-911/

By the way, if you haven't checked out the Classics part of the official website, it has plenty of interesting and useful information including full parts diagram.

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Originally Posted by MOMO3.2 (Post 3458311)

... Leland Pate ...

Sure, I think anyone can send in their "fairy tale" about the car they own and Porsche will put it on their website, including full translation into all the different languages they support. Anyone got time to submit one for 84- Carreras with a detailed description of valve guide and rod bolt issues? I kid of course :rolleyes:

Milu does raise a valid point. Maybe Porsche decided to go back and "change the history" by only recently calling the Sub Carrera "Super Carrera". I mean, it's the same company that came out with an SUV and (soon) a family sedan, right?

Wasn't the 356C "SC" the last of the 356 line? Porsche was ready to replace the 911 with the 928 which was first released in 1977, only a year ahead of 1978 release of 911SC. Perhaps it was a nod to the past? It might also explain why the all-important letters "911" were missing on the back of the 84- Carrera, to signify a "rebirth" of sorts.

OK that is way far into fairy tale territory now.

SmileWavy