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Zeke 09-29-2007 11:19 AM

Can you think of what else to unplug before welding?
 
DME, DME relay, wires to coil, three sensors.
How 'bout the plug(s) at the rear relay board?
Where is the speedo pick up?

DUK 09-29-2007 11:27 AM

Milt, our rule is anything that pertains to charging system and ignition. So Battery (at least the ground), alternator, coil, distributor, dme, etc.

Zeke 09-29-2007 11:30 AM

OK, I didn't forget the battery here, just on my post.

Any way to disconnect the alt externally?

On second thought, I'm welding on the muffler. I think I'll remove the muffler instead.

Zeke 09-29-2007 11:56 AM

...waiting for the PB Blaster to do its magic.

Anyway, this stuff is good to know. This ol' '88 is a lot more complicated electrically and electronically than my '71. :D

Early_S_Man 09-29-2007 04:28 PM

Milt,

Factory alarm module is famous for dying at the paint & body shop, and rendering the car un-startable!

Zeke 09-29-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Early_S_Man (Post 3505447)
Milt,

Factory alarm module is famous for dying at the paint & body shop, and rendering the car un-startable!

Ouch. Glad I just removed the muffler instead. And, I found the hanger was broken, so I got a little extra repair in.

Gonna take a ride tomorrow!.

Thanks, Warren.

Porsche-O-Phile 09-29-2007 06:30 PM

Yet another convincing argument to go with carburetors. :)

Zeke 09-29-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 3505580)
Yet another convincing argument to go with carburetors. :)

Not really. You still have the 14 pin connector, the dizzy (especially the tach lead on early cars), the battery, the CDI and maybe some more. All these cars are different.
But the later ones can get harmed easily, IMO

RarlyL8 09-29-2007 08:07 PM

Wouldn't proper grounding take care of any non-computer issues?
I've been welding on my car for years with no problems.

RickM 09-29-2007 08:16 PM

I've done quite a bit of welding on my '85 and other than disconnecting my battery I've done nothing special. Never had a problem as a result. Luck perhaps?

BertBeagle 09-29-2007 08:34 PM

I have welded on lots of cars - call me crazy - but never unplugged anything and never a problem. I just put the ground clamp directly on the part I was welding which was almost always something on the exhaust system. Some of those cars had some very sophisticated electronics.

rnln 09-29-2007 09:07 PM

I have taken my cars to exhaust shop many times. As BertBeagle said, they never unplug anything even when I requested to unplug the batery neg cable.

Zeke 09-30-2007 10:53 AM

Well, I guess there are two sides to a story. But, if something goes wrong, or you touch something you shouldn't in the darkness of the helmet, then it could be a problem. Someone recently blew their CDI (actually an MSD unit) by just touching and grounding the battery cable at the starter.

rnln 09-30-2007 12:11 PM

It's always good to be extra careful isn't it.

911pcars 09-30-2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BertBeagle (Post 3505703)
I have welded on lots of cars - call me crazy - but never unplugged anything and never a problem. I just put the ground clamp directly on the part I was welding which was almost always something on the exhaust system. Some of those cars had some very sophisticated electronics.

Clamp the welding ground cable close to the weld area (to ground). Since electric welding is a form of resistance welding (the welding tip creating the air gap resistance), the closer the ground clamp to the weld area, the shorter the current path. That's why welding a muffler is pretty safe and welding close to an ECU isn't. It's still a good idea to disconnect the ground cable, just in case.

Sherwood


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