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tsuter 11-09-2007 02:08 PM

Removing front fender 78SC what tool??
 
Ok I have every bolt retaining the fender off except the second 10mm one under the windshield behind the door jamb.
The close one is out, not the deeper one nearer the trunk.
What tool do I need? These are 10mm hex.
I hate to take the door off to get a straight shot.
Door just doesn't open wide enough....

Shaun @ Tru6 11-09-2007 02:19 PM

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steve911 11-09-2007 02:30 PM

Nice try Shaun - but its a hex head - don't know WHAT the Germans were thinking.

Tsuter--
I used a 5MM allen wrench with a ball end -- allows you to get it at an angle and still have it bite. Helps if you have small hands. I'd spray wd-40 at it to loosen up the accumulation of 'junk'. You might think about replacing the cowl seal when you reinstall the fender - a 'while you're at it' thing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194651017.jpg

[Edited to correct hex size - Dennis is right - its 5MM]

Dennis Kalma 11-09-2007 04:10 PM

Just took my fender off, it was a 5 mm hex, as was the other one closer to the door. Not sure about yours (mine is an '89) all the rest were 10mm of course. I needed the ball hex as pictured, except I have a set that are sockets....

Make sure your door is wide open. Plus the sealer those guys put on is pretty tough. I took a razor knife to every edge I could get at, inside the trunk, inside the fender well. I ended up prying from the front end with a stiff blad, but in a manner that pushed the fender edge out, sort of reverse of what is natural. Ran the blade through the open slot a few times, finally got the front loose and then was able to lever out the rest.

Lots of crap in there....

Dennis

Rich76_911s 11-09-2007 04:51 PM

Don't forget the bolts inside the gas tank filler flap. Man I don't recall having this kind of issue with mine and I only remember 10mm all the way around on a '76 and '80.

Ron.G 11-09-2007 06:51 PM

There is a secret to poping the fender free from the body sealer after the bolts are out, without prying and wrecking the fender.
But because of safety reasons, I'm not sure I should post it.

Dennis Kalma 11-09-2007 07:12 PM

....does it involve heat or fire?

Dennis

tsuter 11-10-2007 08:30 AM

OK its off. the "secret" was to knock out the door check pivot pin so that the door would open to about 90 degrees. Be careful.
Then the wrench went in.
Oh, for 78 these are 10mm and you use a socket on the end.

The fender came right off after running a blade knife inside the wheel wells thru all the old undercoating and down the seam - trunk to fender..

JMatta 11-10-2007 09:10 AM

Along this same topic, I would like to loosen my left front fender just enough to replace the cowl seal on my '73. I've removed the two bolts in the door thinking that would be enough...couldn't even budge it. Any suggestions on what I'm missing?

tsuter 11-10-2007 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMatta (Post 3580306)
Along this same topic, I would like to loosen my left front fender just enough to replace the cowl seal on my '73. I've removed the two bolts in the door thinking that would be enough...couldn't even budge it. Any suggestions on what I'm missing?

I would think you must lossen 2-3 inside the trunk near the windshield as well as the top 2-3 in the back of the wheel well to pry it apart enough.

Then the factory rust protector is holding the whole fender in. You will end up breaking that apart soit will seem fastened when it isn't.

In fact to just replace the top cowl seal and not pull the fender so that the entire trunk to fender seam can be retaped seems like an open invitation to rust after you crack it open. Just MO. I like a good rust coating.

tsuter 11-10-2007 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich76_911s (Post 3579481)
Don't forget the bolts inside the gas tank filler flap. Man I don't recall having this kind of issue with mine and I only remember 10mm all the way around on a '76 and '80.

OK, I'm moving to the driver side. With the gas access. I have the two bolts out in there as well as removed the flap with three screws for room.

Unhooked the wire to the puller.
Got the snap ring retaining the rubber jacket out and pushed it down thru the hole.

What else? Does the first section of the tank filler tube need to come out?

Or will the fender pull forward off those two threads?? That support bracket is on top the fender threads.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194720846.jpg

JMatta 11-10-2007 09:59 AM

I hear you...think I'll just leave it and not be so picky.

Good luck on yours and thanks for your opinion.

tsuter 11-11-2007 06:01 AM

Bump for Sunday traffic.....

Tips for removing driver side fender around that gas filler neck flange.....see picture above.

Before I just cut the flange off....

Shaun @ Tru6 11-11-2007 06:04 AM

you have to remove the entire filler neck

tsuter 11-11-2007 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3581536)
you have to remove the entire filler neck


Unhook at the flex connector to the filler neck in the trunk and pull it out thru the fender opening from the outside?

tsuter 11-11-2007 08:40 AM

Some Sunday Porn
 
Passenger side porn.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194802776.jpg

Still stuck at driver side fuel filler neck....

Shaun @ Tru6 11-11-2007 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsuter (Post 3581576)
Unhook at the flex connector to the filler neck in the trunk and pull it out thru the fender opening from the outside?

:)

tsuter 11-11-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsuter (Post 3581576)
Unhook at the flex connector to the filler neck in the trunk and pull it out thru the fender opening from the outside?


Pulling that neck thru was tighter and drier than an 80 yr old.... :)

Anyway its out....


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194808721.jpg

and out a little more....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194808770.jpg

tsuter 11-11-2007 10:22 AM

And the driver side fender off.


nice Sunday project....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1194808957.jpg


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