Off Topic...0-60 Times 911, 930, Nascar, Indy, F1

0 - 60 times are used as a benchmark for acceleration performance. We all know the times for our respective 911s.

I was curious if anyone knows 0 -60 times for Nascar stock cars, Indy cars and F1 cars. I suspect the low 3 second area???? What do you think, any data?

I remember seeing some road test in Car and Driver, because they use a standing start, f1 cars were the fastest. The indy and nascar cars beacause they never (other than leaving the pits) do a standing start were not as quick. They did once tedt a rally car subaru wrx that won the world championship, and that di it in the 3's-on a gravel road nonetheless!!!

I think the f1 car did it in less than 2! or maybe that was some imsa car, whatever.

Me, I'm wondering what's quicker O to 60 MPH-a Top Fuel Dragster, an F-15 off a carrier's deck catapult, or the Space Shuttle leaving the pad? Now, THAT'D be a comparison test I'd like to see!

Paul Frere cited 0-60 in 2.6 sec, and 0-125 in 8.0 sec for the 935/77.

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Warren Hall
1973 911S Targa

Road & Track did a profile on the Jordan F1 car a few months back. The 0-60 time I think was under 2 seconds! The acceleration curve was essentially an alomost vetical line!!! Its amazing what these race cars can do nowdays.

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Joshua Harrison
1968 912 Coupe

Clay,
First of all, an F15 has never flown off of a Carrier(Air Force wienies like 10K foot runways). But an F14 or F18 reaches the end of the flight deck in about 2.5 seconds at about 125 or so maybe a little more.

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Dan S.
1974 911 Targa

0-60 is a good measure of performance, but 0-100-0 is a better one!
Experienced this as a passenger in a 996 Twin Turbo. Had some trouble getting my eyes to focus afterwards.


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Doug
'81 SC Coupe
Canada West Region PCA

[This message has been edited by Doug Zielke (edited 03-12-2001).]

The Shuttle is a pig off the line . It excels at high end torque and top speed!!!!!

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Bob
1982 911SC Targa
PCA - Founders Region

zero to sixty... "the meathead's yardstick"

obin

Which car mag did the 0-150-0 test? I think that's a better test because it also tests the car's brakes in the same test. Lots of fun to watch on Speedvision, too.

I remember reading a test in Car and Driver on a top fuel dragster, 0-60 in less than ONE second. I think around .7 second. Something like that. I guess 5000 hp and huge sticky tires can give quite a launch.

F1 cars are around 1.7 seconds, I think. Pretty darn quick, faster than Indy cars mainly because they are MUCH lighter then Indy cars. That was also published in the last few years by Car and Driver (or Road and Track).

I ran "0-60 is the meathead's yardstick" through one of those internet translation sites, I was amazed that the result came out to "I own a 924"!

I saw a show about the Benneton F1 team the other day - they were saying that the braking ability of the cars was the greatest difference drivers new to F1 reported.

Originally posted by robh:
Which car mag did the 0-150-0 test? I think that's a better test because it also tests the car's brakes in the same test. Lots of fun to watch on Speedvision, too.

i believe it was car and driver that did that. the test was ~loaded~ because they put up wildly modified cars versus stock showroom cars. zero to sixty is a poor representation of a car's capability. it takes only one thing into account. not to mention.. three different magazines can test the exact same car and get different results. that's why it's the "meathead's yardstick".

just because a $1700 "Project White Trash" mustag can out-accelerate a 993.. does that mean the 993 is a crap car? i'll let you be the judge on that one. the car in question was in a Mustang magazine a while back. check it out.

obin

here you go... you want to see what throws the whole "zero to sixty" deal in the toilet:

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/archive/toc0999.shtml

i'd like to see how everyone's 911s could compare to "White Trash". you may be surprised. next time you talk about the capability of your car, just remember the "meathead's yardstick" isn't the only measurement out there.

enjoy!

obin

Originally posted by JBanks:
I ran "0-60 is the meathead's yardstick" through one of those internet translation sites, I was amazed that the result came out to "I own a 924"!

interesting.. i ran "JBANKS" through the profile checker and it said "afraid to post his information in a public forum". probably because he's a bbs troll.

better watch out who you are dealing with because it may come back to haunt you. care to discuss offline? feel free to e-mail me anytime.

obin

It was Caroll Shelby and his cohorts that used to brag about the 0-100-0 times for the 427 Cobra, and attempts by R & T to duplicate his claim of 12 seconds flat with genuine cars, replicas, Ferrari's came a little short of the 'hype' of the '60s, but the superbikes did it with ease ... around 11.2 seconds! But, the Cobras were geared so widely, and some were drag-raced, so it would be hardly fair to compare one geared for Le Mans or the street (which is how the test cars were geared) to one with short gears for the strip!

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Warren Hall
1973 911S Targa

Warren,

i remember seeing something to that effect about the Shelby results that could not be duplicated. I also read in a lot of magazines that they get better 0-60 times than what Porsche claims their cars can do. not too many drag racers in germany i guess

also... you may recall a few years back there was a 0-100-0 competition that someone held. i think it was Road and Track. anyways, Ford built an absolute MONSTER Mustang that stomped all the competition. it had over 700Hp and i believe it was supercharged or twin turbocharged. it also had the most hellish set of brakes you ever saw. the car accelerated so fast that it set the pavement on fire after doing a burnout. the scary thing about the whole package is that the car was built to corner too! i wish i could dig up the info, but i can't remember the name of the car. it was the "King Cobra SVT" or something like that. does it ring a bell?

obin

Obin,

I remember seeing something like that between 'prepared' a Mustang and Camaro a few years back ... I think they called it an 'SVO' Mustang, even though the Special Vehicle Operations group hasn't been around for decades!

One of the funniest 'shoot-outs' I ever read was one staged by Car and Driver back at the end of the US-made Camaros in '92 or so at Ohio's TRC test track. Each vehicle had a support trailer and telemetry, and a dozen or so factory engineers in tow. When it looked like the Camaro was going to win by a sizeable margin, one of the Ford engineers radioed out to the test driver to use 4th gear, and that it would turn a higher speed at 5600 rpm, according to his computer! It might have, if the engine hadn't blown at 5250!!!

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Warren Hall
1973 911S Targa

http://www.acpropulsion.com/tzero_pages/tzero_home.htm

A whole new take on zero to sixty.

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blue
'81 SC Targa