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Wayne,

Do you have a scope of the years this will affect?
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Old 01-12-2008, 10:11 AM
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We are about to move from a world close to the VW and Mustang world into the Ferrari/Lambo world...

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so what should we be stocking up on?
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Wayne,

I hear you. I place a couple of orders with Pelican over the past 2 weeks, and several of the items came back as "Germany Only". I don't mind waiting the 2-3 weeks in most cases, but the 20% surcharge stings a bit. Not your fault, I realize.

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Great opportunity Wayne to get some of this talent on this board together and start marketing their respective works on here to fill the void created by PNA kind of hanging the vintage car restorer out to dry by all the NLA parts . There have been several post here lately asking for intrest in making some of these parts could be a way for pelican parts to grow and branch into another area.
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Wow, Schnellmann, I like that positive attitude. Your theory may be the only thing that will allow me to fall asleep tonight!
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so what should we be stocking up on?

Question (for Wayne) and others: What about an NLA page for each Porsche year/model?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:07 PM
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did i mention that my 82sc is for sale with a rare euro 3.2L????? get it now while its cheap....

Sad that Porsche is dropping the ball.
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Thanks for pointing this out to us Wayne.

This situation plus future fuel prices is something that some of us will be considering in regards to our future with our 20+ year old cars.

Which begs the question; how much money can we or are we willing to spend for the thrill of owning one of the world's most recognizable and adrenaline pumping cars? Beyond the everyday expense, do those with project cars have the deep pockets required to deal with the upcoming shortage?

After putting $12K into a car that I paid $13K for I have to ask the question: Is it now a life-long keeper (considering future maintenance) or do I cash out now for $14K and instead live vicariously through the enthusiasts here and at the track?
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Does this mean it's time to go JDM?

(joking)
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May be it will all be for the better ..capitolism being what it is, vendors will step up to the plate!!
Here is YOUR chance ! Make something great and it will SELL !!
Maybe cylinders will be less then 3500.00
A dash might be 200.00
Who knows I think there will be a glitch and all will be fantastic !!...do not for get china .....
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I like schnellmann's response, and prefer to keep a positive attitude. Someone else also said now is the time for a cottage industry to sprout.

I see this as an opportunity.
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I think this is something that Porsche AG are allowing to happen.

Some comparisons:
Ferrari; Ferrari allowed Maranello Concessionaires (The UK importer and world-wide RHD dealer) to be responsible for ALL Ferrari parts up to (about) 1989.

British Motor Heritage; Celebrates the 20th anniversary of building replacement MGB bodyshells in 2007.

Corvette; It's possible to build a brand new, whatever year you want, Corvette.

Chevrolet; Now possible to buy brand new 57 Chev and '69 Camaro bodyshells.

Mercedes-Benz; MB opened "Classis Service" centers in Germany and USA.

BMW; BMW "Mobile Tradition" recently built a "new" 2002.

Ford; Now possible to buy new '67 Mustang bodyshell.

I believe Porsche needs to decide to either produce parts (which includes the sudden difficulty of buying H4 headlight assemblies) or to form a Heritage/Vintage/whatever corporation to allow other companies to produce the parts, books, manuals and related items and sell them through Porsche AG and onto Official Porsche Dealers or recognized (trained, commited and properly financed) independent businesses. An example would be that Pelican Parts group.

There is no reason in the world that items such as 911 SC ignition distributors (and parts) should be impossible to obtain, that workshop manuals suddenly are NLA, that the owners of older cars will have difficulty in keeping the Porsche tradition alive.

With the latest PCA "no aftermarket" Fuchs wheels for track days, those could be remade by Fuchs.. or another business and then approved by Porsche AG.

I still firmly beleive that new 911 and 914 bodyshells could be manufactured and sold.
If you can buy any one of the British sports cars from the 50s, 60s and 70s it can't be too difficult to redo 911 and 914 shells. As long as owners are prepared to pay.....
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Steve Weiner tells me that PCNA has been ordered to ship all of its air-cooled parts back to Germany.
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As much as we b!tch about China, I think they'll be our savior. As long as we have a reputable dealer to sell the reproduction parts, I think we'll be OK. I'll reverse engineer mechanical parts on contract if anyone's interested . Of course we can probably get that cheaper in China too .
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Last week i read an article in a German Magazin, small on, it said that Porsche was on the way of finishing the buildings to store all of their clasik parts, my theory is this, i think porsche is not going to get out of the clasik parts, but they want to sell them them selfs, so they can mark them up, last year i was taking to the Lenz, guy in the clasik parts department, all of the big hanchos wher there, i ask the question about the Fuchs, response was that they were on negotiations on bringing them back, made by fuchs, he mentioned somenthing about quality, he also had new door pokets , front and back, bought some, but then he said they where not satisfied and would not sell any more.
I my self, have bought many parts for resale here in spain, for the same reason, things will be more dificult, but the porsche tradition will continue.
I say this because in March or so, thru a friend and vendor here in europe, he will start suplying new metal wings for the early F cars and G cars, and many other vendors are starting to do the same thing, its a huge buiss, and who ever has the knowleged and bucks will do it. I would be very surprised that no one in the US wont get into the act, beig that most porsches live there, i also concure with a previous post, that the early cars and all original cars will go up in price, so i am very positive, i think the US has much to say in this matter. We must keep our cars alive. My 2 cents
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Didn't I see someone making a fiberglass 911 dash? Then if appbiz would make a leather stiched recover kit for that now a NLA part is now available again and could be better than the OEM partas far as fit.

I have a mold and have made a few. They are not really bolt in, more of a race/hot rod part. I am covering mine with Alcantara so it should look okay. But if you are restoring, I don't think this will be the product for you.

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Wayne -

From what you are seeing, how are you defining 'older' 911s? 60-70s? 80s?

Jon

Everything from 1965 through the 993s. There's still a lot of 993 stuff available, but almost all of it has been moved to Germany. Porsche is clearing out a lot of stuff too in auctions to the dealers, and you know that stuff will be NLA when it's gone...

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has porsche given any reason for this? i seem to remember a couple years ago porsche was pushing to have a program similar to mercedes and bmw who have good classic parts distribution systems. i guess financially keeping stock of classic parts is not very lucrative. i would think the most profitable car company would support its products better especially since so much of there current sales are based on the reputation of there older cars. have you been able to contact porsche to find a solution? is it possible pelican could offer to become porsche's warehouse?
That's probably part of the problem. If you're the world's most profitable car company, and you're making lots of money selling cars, then selling parts doesn't really seem that important. If you're struggling, and selling parts for older cars is profitable, you're going to be sure to keep that golden egg around. The bean counters at Porsche probably aren't too concerned with the parts business. I have seen a distinct de-emphasis on parts over the past 2-4 years.

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I would not be surprised if something like this is not the catalyst for driving air-cooled 911 prices through the roof. In the VERY near future we will all be kicking ourselves for not picking up a solid 911T at a mere $30,000.
Good guess, but no, it actually works the opposite. Collectors and buyers avoid cars that have parts that are expensive and/or difficult to find. Once the parts for a particular car begin to run out, then the car gets a stigma of being difficult to work on and difficult to obtain parts for. The 959 is sometimes seen like this. If you can't get the parts for the car, then it's not a fun ownership experience, and resale values suffer tremendously. Other cars (like Ferraris, and/or some British cars / Alfas) have the same scarlet letter attached to them.

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