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mca 03-21-2008 03:01 PM

Another Engine Rebuild Thread - 80 3.0L
 
Well, my "spare" engine was delivered this week. I was so excited that I took off of work today in order to get started.

I bought an engine out of a 80 SC that needs to be rebuilt. I did this so that I could take my time with the rebuild while still enjoying my 82 SC. Once I am done I will swap the rebuilt engine into my 82 and use the CIS from my 82.

Right now I don't have an engine stand - hence the engine sitting on a pallet.

This is my first rebuild - I am a complete novice so I hope that this turns out well and inpires others to do the same when their engines are in need of a rebuild.

Below are pics from today's progress. I am at a stopping point until I get a stand - can't take off exhaust without it.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206140069.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206140167.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206140201.jpg

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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206140282.jpg

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mca 03-21-2008 03:10 PM

Some more quick pics.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206140974.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206140987.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206141000.jpg

craigyirush 03-21-2008 06:30 PM

Subscribed. Will be interested to hear how it goes.

911Freak 03-21-2008 06:57 PM

sub'd
great pictures too, keep 'em coming!

nice machete hanging on the wall! LOL

TibetanT 03-21-2008 10:50 PM

Subscribing for information.

Good luck with your project. I'll be interested to know if there are any issues with fitting a 82 CIS on a 80 engine.

mca 03-22-2008 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TibetanT (Post 3842524)
Subscribing for information.

Good luck with your project. I'll be interested to know if there are any issues with fitting a 82 CIS on a 80 engine.

Me too!

The 80 engine was supposed to have an external Voltage Regulator. When I pulled the alternator out yesterday it had the internal Volatage Regulator.

Is it common for people to switch from external VR to internal VR?

mca 03-22-2008 01:15 PM

I managed to get the cat and muffler off even though the engine is still on the floor.

This allowed me to remove the lower valve cover gaskets and the chain covers.

The great news is that I found no broken or pulled head studs!

Keep in mind that I have limited info on this motor other than the fact that cylinder #3 has zero compression with 100% leakage and the other five have 140-160 compression and poor leakdown numbers (don't have specific numbers though).

Also, I took a closer look at the alternator today. I think it is pretty new based on the exterior condition. It looks like it was just put in. The fan housing has many cracks and the fan has a handful of chips.

Here are more pics from today.

Did I mention that this is the most fun I have had in a long long time? I restored an old house a few years ago and the demolition is always fun - same applies here. I am sure the good times will come to an end once I have to start cleaning and shelling out duckets.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206220439.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1206220459.jpg

w21055 03-22-2008 04:33 PM

Nice can't wait to see the progress. Those manuals look soooo clean right now!

notmytarga 03-22-2008 04:54 PM

Subscribed - What did you pay for the engine? - If you don't mind. Do you know how recently the engine was run?

The oil cooler is easy pickings while on the pallet - if you have a long enough extension. But get it up higher and save your back - keep having fun.

TibetanT 03-22-2008 05:40 PM

I think the internal voltage regulator is a good thing!

Looks like some yellow overspray from a car being painted? And, even maybe some primer, but what is that on the cylinder cover plates? Rust or dirt?

Wow! You have gotten down to the meat fast and should have answers to the question about cylinder three (3) soon as to the leakdown numbers being bad there. I'm betting/hoping it just needs a re-ring or maybe valve guides.

Also, it appears you are in the same boat I am with the 1978 3.0L having to use the crowfoot to remove cams, right?

TibetanT 03-22-2008 05:43 PM

Forgot to mention earlier that I think you have the Carrera pressure-fed tensioners in there already by the looks of it. If so, that is excellent and shows someone really cared about the engine's life-span.
SmileWavy

mca 03-23-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notmytarga (Post 3843706)
Subscribed - What did you pay for the engine? - If you don't mind. Do you know how recently the engine was run?

I paid $2k for it - shipping from Oklahoma to South Carolina was an additional $230 via Old Dominion Freight. ODF was absolutely great to deal with. They met me at my house and took the engine right into my garage.

Don't know how recently the engine was run but I am pretty positive it was within the last 6 months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TibetanT (Post 3843706)
Looks like some yellow overspray from a car being painted? And, even maybe some primer, but what is that on the cylinder cover plates? Rust or dirt?

Yes, the car was yellow and there is a heck of a lot of overspray. Fortunately most of that will be gone when I drop my CIS on top and clean up that engine.

There is no rust (I thought same thing when it was coming off of the truck). It is red clay and grease!

It does have the updated tensioners but I may use the ones off of my current engine b/c they are only 10k miles old.

zevenbergena 03-23-2008 10:31 AM

Subscribed!
Looking forward to rebuilding my 80 3.0 in a couple years, but this makes me want to drop it and tear it apart right now!

mca 03-23-2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zevenbergena (Post 3844853)
Subscribed!
Looking forward to rebuilding my 80 3.0 in a couple years, but this makes me want to drop it and tear it apart right now!

Ha! That is how I felt too when I saw others doing it.

It will be pretty cool to be able to say that you rebuilt a Porsche engine during your lifetime. That might seem sort of materialistic in terms of one's lifetime goals - but it is cool nonetheless!

sabeo.m 03-23-2008 10:59 AM

I have an 80SC as well, I found a few broken head studs this past summer, so I'm going to be dropping and rebuilding once the weather becomes nicer around my parts. Man, it's been a long winter! I already purchased the engine stand and Yoke.. I've already decided to buy Race Ware head studs and I'll probably get a set of JE pistons. Hopefully my Cylinders are ok! I'll be posting pictures as well once i get started, keep your pic's coming, it's great to see them! SmileWavy

mca 04-12-2008 05:12 PM

UPDATE:

Got engine stand this week. I managed to get some work buddies to lift the engine onto the stand on Friday - bought everyone lunch for helping. It was a little hairy at first b/c one of the buddies was a girl.

I made a lot of progress today. Pics will follow next week as I don't have my camera connection cord here at home.

SOOO ... a couple of interesting items to mention.

1) I have Mahle cylinders!
2) The cylinders were already scribed with numbers. :confused:

The scribed numbers on the cylinders were not visible until I pulled each cylinder. I only did 1-3 today (stuck on right side trying to get cam woodruf key out!).

Does this mean that the engine has been opened up before?

Dixie 04-12-2008 05:19 PM

Hi MCA,

Do you have the engine on the stand yet? Let me know if you need a hand. I'm not that far away.

mca 04-12-2008 06:10 PM

Yep, got it on stand yesterday and continued the tear down.

Thanks for offering to lend a hand. I really think that I will need help during assembly. Also, I have to drop the engine out of my 82 and insert the rebuilt engine ... that would be a great time to stop by!

khamul02 04-12-2008 06:59 PM

Alright Flash Man you are doing exactly what I have in mind. Buying a engine in need of rebuild before I need to do my own. You mentioned OK. Did you purchase from OK foreign or an individual?
Keeps those pics coming :D

mca 04-13-2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khamul02 (Post 3883257)
Alright Flash Man you are doing exactly what I have in mind. Buying a engine in need of rebuild before I need to do my own. You mentioned OK. Did you purchase from OK foreign or an individual?
Keeps those pics coming :D

It came from Piedmont, OK. I bought it on eBay from 911-carrera2. He has an eBay store called Performance Motorsports Oklahoma.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-911-3-0-ENGINE-COMPLETE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQihZ016Q QitemZ260215252731QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


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