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Wayne 962 03-22-2008 02:20 PM

Albatross or Gold Mine? 959 Parts Car on eBay...
 
This just popped up on eBay today:

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It's tempting to gather up the other 959 owners I know to buy this car and then part it out. But, then the other side of me says that perhaps it still can be saved, eventually. If the cars ever increase in value into the stratosphere, then a car like this may be a proverbial bargain starting point.

Then, the practical side of me, says to wait until the auction is over, and then contact the buyer, and ask him to simply buy the parts that I need, rather than take the whole car.

Thoughts?

-Wayne

EarlyPorsche 03-22-2008 02:26 PM

A. Thats too saveable
B. Its not worth 100,000 as it sits unless all missing broken parts go with it
C. Looks like a headache
D. If your 959 works, don't worry about amassing parts. Whenever you need something you will find it. Thats what google and internet is good for.

Tooth911 03-22-2008 02:29 PM

Wayne I would somehow buy the whole car and determine whats next. Also I will be in LA in April 7th till the 11th I would like to meet up and saay howdy cheers Chuck

FenderGuy 03-22-2008 02:41 PM

why is it so dirty if its been indoors? Key area looks like sun damage..It looks like its been outside since 1988

911Freak 03-22-2008 02:42 PM

Let's see, clean title, 1,615 miles, most of the bits are there from the looks of it...
and shipping incl? road trip to Long Beach harbor???

I would think this would be a pretty good investment.. even if only for the parts... but considering it's clean title....you never know.

How often do you see "real" 959's in this condition?

Hardly ever? I would think most of them would look like squirrelly Dieters (s) Enzo laying in 2 peices up out of Malibu LOL!

Wayne 962 03-22-2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche (Post 3843342)
A. Thats too saveable
B. Its not worth 100,000 as it sits unless all missing broken parts go with it
C. Looks like a headache
D. If your 959 works, don't worry about amassing parts. Whenever you need something you will find it. Thats what google and internet is good for.

A - Yes, it does look "saveable" from the external pics. Don't know about what about underneath

B - I disagree. If you're looking for parts, they add up very quickly. How much is a 959 engine worth? $50K, $75K? Probably somewhere in that range. 4WD pump $4000, wheels $1K each, windshield $2500, ABS system $5K, gas tank $1K, brake discs (new they are $4000/set), shocks, suspension setup, etc. How about all of the control units (all 13 of them). The stuff adds up.

C- YES, it does look like a headache. But, I'm a Pomona Swapmeet guy at heart, I love stuff like this. Almost like crack cocaine to me!

D- You're probably right. Tough to resist the urge to take a hit from the pipe though...

-Wayne

Wayne 962 03-22-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911Freak (Post 3843365)
How often do you see "real" 959's in this condition?

Hardly ever?

NEVER. This is indeed a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Independent of price, I may *never* have the chance to buy a 959 parts car again.

That said, it looks like Freisinger (German parts dealer) is already angling to purchase the car outside of eBay:

From the seller:

Quote:


HI THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE BUT I NEED SOME CASH SO I HAVE TO SALE THIS CAR

PLEASE YOU BUY MY CAR AND MAKE MONY FOR SALE
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne at Pelican Parts
To: sale@i-ml.com
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:39 AM
Subject: RE: You've received an answer to your question about item Porsche : PORSCHE 959


wayne@pelicanparts.com is my email address. I'm assuming the buyer is Freisinger - I know him. I would hold off a short bit if I were you, there's no hurry for you to sell the car right away if there is more than one serious interested buyer.

I have an email out to my group of 959 owners too, seeing what they would like to do...

Here's my car: http://www.959registry.org/'

-Wayne

Wayne R. Dempsey
CEO, Pelican Parts Inc.
Quote:


I NEED YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS , GERMANY PERSON BUY JUST WHITH PHOTO HE OWN 2 959 CARS .YOU CAN COME AND CHECK THE CAR TO KYOTO JAPAN BUT I THINK WILL BE SOLD VERY SOON THANK YOU THIS CR I TRY TO SLE START YESTERDAY NOBODY DO NOT COME TO SEE MY CAR YET
Offhand, (and it may just be the Japanese - English translation, but this guy seems suspicious to boot. Anyone who is in such a hurry to sell tingles my "spidey-sence". The car may be stolen or something like that. Who knows. He just sent me some more pics...

Your opinions and feedback are welcome...

-Wayne

HarryD 03-22-2008 02:57 PM

Wayne,

Careful now or you will soon be joining the ranks of the Lotus people who know (all too well) that it is impossible to own just one Lotus. You need several to keep your one unit running. ;)

It is not a bad thing to have a stash of parts for use or trade.

3.2 CAB 03-22-2008 02:59 PM

To me, it looks like there is some very careful wording being used, such as: "ALWAYS KEPT IN A GARAGE WITH ROOF." No where does it state that it was in an enclosed area, just that it had a roof. Either that thing went off into a body of water and got a LOT of pond scum throughout the interior, or it had to be just under an open "carport" because there is just too much crap all over the interior. Also, look how faded the instrument needles are. I have seen much cleaner cars at the local, U-Pull It, type parts yards. I do not believe that it was, or had been actually stored inside an enclosed space. It really looks like nothing more than a salvage parts car, but what do I know. I would not really consider it as a builder, because if it did ditch in the drink, the entire drive train may be toast. Just my humble opinion, and $100,000.00 cents worth.

PCA7GGR 03-22-2008 02:59 PM

Buy it before Canepa gets wind of it.

TRE Cup 03-22-2008 03:01 PM

i know where a body shell is.......

Wayne 962 03-22-2008 03:02 PM

My top 959 valuation expert that I know (violin959 on the boards here), thinks it's overpriced at $100K, due to the damage that appears to be done to the car. I have more pics, I will place here in a few minutes...

-Wayne

Wayne 962 03-22-2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRE Cup (Post 3843398)
i know where a body shell is.......

What about the parts that came off that shell? :)

-Wayne

scottb 03-22-2008 03:05 PM

Before spending $100k on something like this, I'd hop a plane to Japan and put eyes on it. The fare to Japan may be $5k, but that's a small insurance policy in the context of a $100k-plus purchase.

My $.02.

Wayne 962 03-22-2008 03:05 PM

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TRE Cup 03-22-2008 03:05 PM

the car was part of Vasek's vast collection of stuff (before the ol man passed away) . From what i remember it is missing some of the computers, a seat, some suspension pieces, wheels, a couple body parts, and drivetrain. Other than that is is fairly complete !
My friend bought it with the intention of building it into a 961 road course version. Alas, he has waaay to much on his plate, so could be enticed to sell.

Wayne 962 03-22-2008 03:07 PM

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3.2 CAB 03-22-2008 03:11 PM

Gee Wayne, it looks like your shooting blanks with the posts.


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