help convince my wife. please!!!!!!!!!

Ok here it goes. I want to talk the wife into a new engine for the carrera.
it is an 86 that will need new valve guides soon. rather than do the top end and forget the bottom I want to do a complete rebuild.
she says hell no!
The car has 105k on it we purchased it 7k ago for $18,000 will a fresh motor help the resale value and aproximately how much for a perfect car with original paint and perfect interior. not a ding to be found.

I'm too smart to take sides on this one, except to take the side of common sense. I will be rebuilding my engine's top end soon, but I do not plan on dealing with the bottom. My oil pressure's fine and the engine seems to be balanced within an inch (or gram) of its life. I considered replacing the rod bearings, but Roland has me scared. No really, I just want to avoid the cost of new rod bolts.

Since the Carrera rod bolts are considered marginal particularly if used with aftermarket chips, and if there are replacement bolts that have a greater safety margin, then I'd consider replacing those bolts (and rod bearings) in your Carrera. This can be done without splitting the case. If your oil pressure is fine, I'd suggest you at least consider leaving the crankshaft alone. But then I'm not fond of fixin stuff that aint broken. Some of my worst mechanical nightmares have been coused my me replacing stuff I should have left alone.

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'83 SC

Yes, a fresh engine will help the resale value of the car, but I doubt even with a fresh engine you'd be able to get much more than what you paid for it, or that you will be able to recover anywhere near the cost of the rebuild.

Hard to argue that spending a lot of money on these cars makes economic sense!

I doubt you need to get into the bottom end at such a "low" mileage -- why not just do the valve guides at this point, and keep on driving it!

well You guys got me! I want to throw the 964 cams in there while its apart but she doesn't need to know this. The price for the top end around here in mass is the same for a rebuild in ca. $4800.00 unless you all will help me out this winter to do it myself if you all feel a rookie with good mechanicle ability can rebuild the top end.

Do it yourself! I'm writing a book on engine rebuilding right now! We'll help you out - no problem-o. You can probably do it yourself for $2k including all the tools...

-Wayne

Doof,

I got no skills, but 2 hands and a case of beer. Worst case, we sit around and stare at it and drink the beer.

Magilla

German beer??

If you have the time and place to do the job
do the top end yourself this winter...
Not that bis a deal.

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• Joe A.
• 84 911 Targa
• 75 914/6 3.0

I would of thought $2k would be enough to have it done by a pro including labor. Can someone break down the $2k roughly into the parts?

Cancel that thought - Doah! I realize now that Wayne was talking about $2k in parts and tools to do a complete rebuild, not just the valve guides.

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Chuck - '86 Cab, '77 Targa, Family Truckster

[This message has been edited by Clark Griswald (edited 05-29-2001).]

Just try to convince her that the P-car is a better outlet than having a mistress. But then, of course, your P car had better be your only mistress! It seems to have worked for me...bought the car in '74, got married in '75. Wife and car both still around. Good luck!

Doof,

You gotta think like a woman on this one (yea right)... WHATS IN IT FOR HER AND WHY SHOULD SHE LET YOU DO IT???

Now that I am thinking normally again, you need to figure out a reason that she needs to have a new motor in the car. Like... you will not spend so much time working on the car and will then spend the time working around the house. Or tell her that to match the motor, you will do a project around the house for her!

Otherwise you are dead meat... and remember, when "Momma is happy, life is good, and when Momma not happy, life is a *****...

Just started the paperwork for my divorce last month, liking my: car, motorcycle and airplane more and more.

JA

If you were a real man you wouldn't need to convince your wife about anything, you would just tell her that you were getting a new engine. its that simple, take off the skirt

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Daryl 964 Targa

I have to agree with pwd, my wife sais she would rather me buy a new turbo than have a mistress. That might be hard to do while driving a new turbo though.hehe, just kidding honey...

Tell her it was on SALE!! and like a woman with her shoes... a man can't have too many engines in the closet!!

Tim in Sac

Hello

OK sorry but a observation in germany is that a fresh engine rebuilt by a home mechanic even not brings back the investet parts.

Experts my can follow what you made but will not pay it and the average costumer likes to see a big bundle of bills from a Porsche dealer or a good indipendent Porsche shop. If not they will lower the price to compensate the higher risk. Or you give personal waranty on it.

Even the word resale value is a risk to use. Women can understand other things like geting jewelery or furs under "resale value from a car "

The resale value is allways something that hapend under marked rules and not worth to think about. Maybe tomorow all rush for other cars and that will drop even for pristine cars.

Right now you have a new toy ( The difference between man and boy is the price of there toy ) and so just play with it as it is. Just keep the costs low and show the car is dependable and will run with a good mpg, or say the car is worth the money. If it runs cheaper than your other toys she will like it after a while.

105000 mls ? I wouldn´t even do the heads untill she says that it maybe is better do do something as you spit the oil over the driveway. Yes and then do something.
And if it is something more ?

But I would just make the heads and some additional and invest the case rebuilt money in more usefull, like good shocks and some nice tires. Or geting as Set euro P&C and a Lenztronic Metallic converter with ECU for 245 HP. Or the smaller shoot with 230 HP and lower compression euros.

Grüsse