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kcf7z 05-15-2008 07:07 PM

Relay socket insertion help
 
This should not seem to require help, but I am in the midst of installing a relay socket into an empty hole for a cooling fan for a new carrera cooler and try as I might I cannot get it to pop through from behind. Is there a trick to this that I am not seeing. The socket does not seem to come apart and All I am currently doing is marring up the hole and the socket with a flat head screwdriver trying to get it in place. I have decided to stop work for tonight. Probably dumb question, but any help wold be appreciated.

jeff1hughes 05-15-2008 07:14 PM

I honestly would have to look but, not to imply any better knowledge, have you tried turning it 90 degrees? It's possible that it is not exactly square.

Mitch Leland 05-15-2008 07:17 PM

I'm assuming you working on the left side, engine room panel... First be sure that your battery is disconnected before messing with the relays. "don't ask me how I know"... The relays on my "84" the base and relay do not separate like a traditional base socket.

Hopefully someone will chime in with more knowledge...

kcf7z 05-15-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff1hughes (Post 3945333)
I honestly would have to look but, not to imply any better knowledge, have you tried turning it 90 degrees? It's possible that it is not exactly square.

It is one of the round relays on above the main fuse panel. The relay socket looks like it should just snap in from behind like the others and Wayne's book does not suggest any difficulty with this process - I probably either need to drink more milk or hire a gorilla, but all I know is my fingers are sore with m failed attempts.

jeff1hughes 05-15-2008 07:48 PM

Do you really think that milk will make you think you got it in all the way? How about something stronger, like Tang, I hear it works for astronauts.

kcf7z 05-16-2008 04:19 AM

I'll reask for all the east coast folks that were'nt perusing after 11:00 last night. Thanks.

MBAtarga 05-16-2008 04:36 AM

I added a relay socket to my fuse panel during the oil cooler fan upgrade on my SC.
I stuck it through the existing hole and twisted it, maybe even helped it through by pulling it from the front side.

kcf7z 05-16-2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 3945750)
I added a relay socket to my fuse panel during the oil cooler fan upgrade on my SC.
I stuck it through the existing hole and twisted it, maybe even helped it through by pulling it from the front side.

That's what it looks like. Maybe I need to use more umph. I just got through with surgery for the day - you would think if I can do that - I should be able to snap a relay in place...

I'll go home and try again.

Jim727 05-16-2008 01:32 PM

If you're talking about the factory-type round relay (sounds like you are), there is a cavity in the center which creates a hollow in the mounting nipple. You need a rounded tool, like a rounded dowel, which inserts into the cavity and is used to stretch the mounting nipple. Silicone the rubber and metal bits and press the relay socket gently into the hole with the tool. Do Not use anything sharp or it will penetrate the rubber and you're right back to using a screwdriver.

Paulporsche 05-16-2008 01:58 PM

I just got through with surgery for the day - you would think if I can do that - I should be able to snap a relay in place...

I'll go home and try again.[/QUOTE]

You gotta love it! Here's a guy who performs surgery yet can't do what seems like a simple task on a car whose fusebox design goes back to an old sawmill in the mountains in the thirties!

It's a good thing we love these cars.

Keep at it. The previous suggestion sounded like a good one. And don't forget...we're laughing (crying?) with you, not at you.

kcf7z 05-16-2008 04:09 PM

Thanks

There is an art to everything.
There is the proper technique of which experience is the best teacher and having seen it done or done it before makes a big difference.

Surgery is easy - working on these cars is my way of reducing stress - funny thing to pick huh?

Wil Ferch 05-17-2008 10:41 AM

I'm confused.........if we're talking about the round relay receptacles...heat them up a bit with a hair drier...softens the rubber up a bit, and they snap into place pretty easily then. Be careful not to get them too hot, they also tend to deform or melt. As I recall I inserted mine from the front, not behind, but maybe it doesn't matter.


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