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flatsixnut 06-20-2008 09:52 AM

Ok, I might be way off with my analogy, but here goes.

One of my water hoses for my yard busted at the male end. I went to Home Depot to buy another hose @ $40.00 for a 100 footer. Might as well add a new "cool" spray nozzal to the cart as well for an additional $20.
I ended up leaving the store with a $3 male end hose mender. Plus I still have that $50 HomeDepot gift card in my wallet.

Sorry if my story did not fit well with your question. I just cant seem to understand how spending more money on a newer car is going to save you money...unless you plan on keeping this beemer for 20+ years.

Porsche_monkey 06-20-2008 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatsixnut (Post 4014316)
I just cant seem to understand how spending more money on a newer car is going to save you money...unless you plan on keeping this beemer for 20+ years.

Corollary: How many hose menders are you going to put on an old hose? One? Ten? At some point you need a new hose.

FinallyGotOne 06-20-2008 10:05 AM

I have to add something here. It seems EVERY person who has sold his porsche always either regrets his decision. or buys another one. Geez i could sell my 911 and buy a corolla and get killer gas milegae but I just do not care about that too much. I'd rather quit drinking starbucks, quit going to Chipotle, use less air time minutes on my cell, give up HD tv, fewer beers, dine at home, lower my thermostat, or raise it in the summer, anything to keep the 911. I've never enjoyed driving a car as much as i do! Theres nothing that drives like a porsche.

So if you sell it then regret it which is inevitable, then you'll have to buy another one, that one will need repairs or alterations and in the end you'll be out way more money. Besides SOME day gas prices will come back down again

pryord 06-20-2008 10:08 AM

..and I wouldn't even consider selling if I still didn't have the '67 911. Also, I respectfully disagree about gas prices coming down some day. I'm surprised it took this long to happen.

flatsixnut 06-20-2008 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBH (Post 4014324)
Corollary: How many hose menders are you going to put on an old hose? One? Ten? At some point you need a new hose.


Well considering I only cut off 4" out of 100'.
But that was not my point. You really cant compare a 911 to a garden hose.;)

As far as gas prices going back down...Has it ever really happened?

Ultimately he "the OP", has a '67, so I am sure he will be fine if he sells the SC.
But he will never get the money for the BMW that he could get for the SC.

Peter Zimmermann 06-20-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pryord (Post 4014098)
Peter, what sort of real world mileage do you get with your BMW? Thanks.

I loved that car, but it was the 2-door coupe, our family situation changed, and I sold it in early '06. At the time I was averaging 20-22 mpg, and my driving was a mix of 80% suburban, 10% city and 10% freeway (fast - not traffic).

Patrice911 06-20-2008 11:01 AM

If the thing is to reduce the gas expense, and have something fun to drive. I think you should look at something that will be cheaper than a BMW.
My daily driver is Mazda Miata, it do 26mpg being driven not easily. Being more careful I guess it will do close to 30mpg. I know on highway driving only it do above 33mpg and it used regular gas. As for the fun factor, this car is a lot of fun. Since you have the 67, if you sell the SC you can put half of the money on a nice Miata and the other half you can put it on the 67.

MattKellett 06-20-2008 11:12 AM

I think you need to look outside the box on this one, and then you can keep the 911!

How about you buy some old big V8 piece of crap for $1000 or $500!!!!

Then leave it parked on street and think to yourself - look how much I'm saving in gas every week by NOT driving my sweet V8 ride :D

Matt

Peter Zimmermann 06-20-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FinallyGotOne (Post 4014336)
fewer beers

WHAT!?! Are you crazy??? :rolleyes:

Porsche_monkey 06-20-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrice911 (Post 4014409)
My daily driver is Mazda Miata

:eek::eek::eek: Not everyone on this board would admit that.

GothingNC 06-20-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinallyGotOne (Post 4014336)
I have to add something here. It seems EVERY person who has sold his porsche always either regrets his decision. or buys another one. Geez i could sell my 911 and buy a corolla and get killer gas milegae but I just do not care about that too much. I'd rather quit drinking starbucks, quit going to Chipotle, use less air time minutes on my cell, give up HD tv, fewer beers, dine at home, lower my thermostat, or raise it in the summer, anything to keep the 911. I've never enjoyed driving a car as much as i do! Theres nothing that drives like a porsche.

So if you sell it then regret it which is inevitable, then you'll have to buy another one, that one will need repairs or alterations and in the end you'll be out way more money. Besides SOME day gas prices will come back down again

x2, except for the Beer part.

Zeke 06-20-2008 01:39 PM

2K a year to drive a car?? That's nothing. How much is Starbucks pulling out your wallet each year? Or whatever else you indulge in.

OK, so with great effort selling, then buying another car, you save around $750. You might spend that on advertising. Jeez, I wouldn't give that another thought. Go back to work. ;) :D

dw1 06-20-2008 02:00 PM

911 3.2 = better mpg
 
I haven't seen another option discussed, but I think it's important to consider.

3.2 Carreras get much better gas mileage than the SC's. I don't think the EPA numbers published back in '84 are 100% accurate, but they listed 20/32 (city/hwy)!

I don't think they are that far off, as I get in the low 20's with very "spirited" driving with my '87, and mid-to-high 20's with steady highway driving.

Oh, and an SW chip does improve mpg, or at least it did on mine.

IMHO, and to answer the original question: sports sedan (bmw, saab, audi) as dd, and 911 as toy. A sports sedan & a '67 911 - I could live with that, although I prefer a Saab as daily driver, as bimmers are not great in bad winter weather, and I don't care for the styling and features of the newer bmw's.

p.s.
I think consideration of "smiles per gallon" versus "miles per gallon" is applicable to the question originally posed.

pksystems 06-20-2008 02:30 PM

Put a fuel efficient Japanese turbo h4 into a light early fixer upper, and you should get better mileage then any hybrid.

MOMO3.2 06-20-2008 02:34 PM

When I bought my 87 Carrera 3.2 over 5 years ago, gas mileage did not really factor in to things...

When I "added" 400 lbs of lightness to my 87 Carrera a few years back, fuel efficiency was not part of the equation...

But, with fuel prices at $5.00 per gallon here in SoCal, I feel lucky as hell to be driving a Carrera 3.2. I can easily get 30+ mpg on the highway.

Mike

flatsixnut 06-20-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pksystems (Post 4014767)
Put a fuel efficient Japanese turbo h4 into a light early fixer upper, and you should get better mileage then any hybrid.

That would be a hell of alot worse than admitting you daily drive a miata. ;)

911st 06-20-2008 02:46 PM

With sales tax, the cost of fixing the undisclosed problems on the car you are buying, tire kickers you have to endure etc...

You sound like you work on your cars.

Could sell your motor and buy a Carrera efi motor to install that runs more efficiently. Should get you into the 20-27 mpg range.

I have my eye on a mini cooper.

drums 06-20-2008 02:57 PM

Keep it. You may think it hurts now but the pain of thinking of what you let go is far worse than a few miles/gallon.....
Mine runs on MINIMUM 100 octane. Yes, it is not a daily driver. At $6.999/gallon for pump gas [100 octane], the trips are metered out and negotiated with the other half [and she is always in it when it moves].
Sure, its difficult to justify at times but you will be so glad to have kept it so many days down that road......these prices have us all second guessing and doing mathematical gymnastics but we are talking about exchanging a PORSCHE! Does that qualify as heresy on this board?

craigyirush 06-20-2008 03:45 PM

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but the average mileage in my '86 Carrera is 17mpg
This is from a mix of city and highway (and almost never in heavy traffic).

(I did get in the mid-to-high 20s on a long freeway trip last summer)).

I service it regularly and it has passed smog twice.

How many other Carrera owners get 20mpg?

dentist90 06-20-2008 03:52 PM

Old Porshe: $12,000
Gas: $4.50 a gallon
Driving around in a glorious car you love.... PRICELESS!
Life is short... drive a Porsche.


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