Whats a 69S mfi motor worth?

herman maire · 07-17-2008, 12:43 PM

I am thinking of parting with another project engine of mine. The motor is still in one of my project cars and runs and starts pretty good. Its complete with MFI.

Whats a fair asking price? a price that somebody will actually pay, not some crazy dreamy S price where it sits in the garage till it turns to dust

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thanks

Rich76_911s · Rich76_911s's Garage

Here are some ideas that I got on a 1969 S engine that was in a 912, although it hadn't been run in a long time:
69 911S engine Value? ? ?

911st · 07-17-2008, 01:30 PM

It's highest potental value is in getting it back into the original body if possable.

If you have the Vin, try CarFax to see if it is still alive. If you or the body owner can not afford to do so, somone on the board may be initerested.

If you do not have the VIN, mabie Porsche can help you find what car it came with.

budge96 · 07-17-2008, 02:09 PM

Herman,thats a good question... I recently was offered a mostly complete '69 S engine for
7500.00 and was willing to buy it but the seller refused to give me a few days to transfer funds.
I still think thats reasonable for a decent running (no verifiable rebuild) 2.0L S engine
complete with MFI.
I subsequently purchased a completely rebuilt 2.4S (w/receipts) for 13.5K even though my
project really needs a 2.2S ,at the time it seemed like a great deal.
I am contemplating selling/trading the 2.4S to get a more appropriate engine for my build...
let me know if you have any interest, hope this helps..thanks Bert

herman maire · 04:09 PM

Thank you guys for all the replies.

I thought it was a S motor because of the complete S injection BUT the case # is *6016768* . I looked in my porsche book and I cant find anything that corresponds with that number anywhere. Also, the code # is so hard to make out all I can see is ??1/10 .

I dont have a clue what I have now except for the S injection which is probably not worth to much alone.

Any ideas?

djpateman · 07-18-2008, 07:18 PM

I can't figure that out either. Pictures would really help. See if there is a third number near the type # 9x1/yy. If there is, then it would confirm a type 901/yy engine I believe. Scrub & clean those #'s until there is no mistake.

I can find no 911/10 designation, and the 901/10 has the range 6390001 to 6392126, so your # doesn't come close. I love the challenge.

EarlyPorsche · 07-18-2008, 09:45 PM

1969 was such an inbetween year. It was a 2.0 but magnesium cased. It didn't have "that much" more appeal than the standard or E. In my opinion the 69S is the worst year of the S cars. Many people I have spoken to agree that a 69 S is not the direction to take for desirability. I wouldn't pay any more for a 69S engine than I would a standard 69 engine. I would certainly pay less for a 69S engine than ANY aluminum 2.0 from an earlier 65-67 whether or not it was an S or not. I think that will help you value it much more objectively.

herman maire · 07-23-2008, 05:49 AM

Still would like some opinion's on this motor

I made a big mistake.... I used the engine #'s that the seller gave me when I bough the car and surprise, surprise the #'s dont match up. The seller was a good guy to deal with so I dont think it was intended, just papers that he kept from the seller he bought it from 13years ago.

Turns out its a 2.2L with complete "S" mfi
MFI pump # 0408 126 009

The problem is that sometime in its 38 years the case #'s were messed with... you can see where they sanded some #'s down and stamped some new #'s .

Other than the case #'s being messed with the motor has probably 30k miles on a rebuild and it runs pretty darn good. It does not puff oil on start up, pulls hard after 5000rpm , no strange noises , good compression 170-175psi ect...

This motor is in my 1967 Targa project car and I would like to put a 2.7 in it so is this motor still worth much.

herman maire · 07-23-2008, 05:51 AM

Oh, and it has Carrera chain tensioners too and the motor is pretty dry.

djpateman · 07-23-2008, 07:20 AM

Are there numbers (type # for example) on the case that are not tampered with? If so, what are they?

Shoepop · 07-23-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlyPorsche

1969 was such an inbetween year. It was a 2.0 but magnesium cased. It didn't have "that much" more appeal than the standard or E. In my opinion the 69S is the worst year of the S cars.

McQueen must not have known that he should have keep his 70 and sold his 69!

Zeke · 07-23-2008, 08:01 AM

The shroud looks to be painted, I wonder if the original red one is under that paint? IMHO and quite frankly, there is so much that might have to be done to make that a real smooth running and good looking motor. Just the MFI could require a couple 1000 to get in perfect shape. And, to me, the MFI is the heart of the whole deal there. I think that's a sub $5000 motor until more is verified. For every part in spec, add back at least half of the rebuild cost.

So, you're looking at butterflies, injectors, the pump itself, leak down, plain ol' leaks and more. Plus the goofy case deal. Anyone thinking of an engine like this to put in a non MFI car (like some T's or a 914) needs to have the fuel filter console and the fuel pump as well.

I'd say that motor was cleaned minutes before the pic was taken. What did it really look like beforehand? Look in some of the nooks and crannies and you can see.

Not trying to rain on your parade, Herman, just being realistic and practical.

herman maire · 07-23-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milt

The shroud looks to be painted, I wonder if the original red one is under that paint? IMHO and quite frankly, there is so much that might have to be done to make that a real smooth running and good looking motor. Just the MFI could require a couple 1000 to get in perfect shape. And, to me, the MFI is the heart of the whole deal there. I think that's a sub $5000 motor until more is verified. For every part in spec, add back at least half of the rebuild cost.

So, you're looking at butterflies, injectors, the pump itself, leak down, plain ol' leaks and more. Plus the goofy case deal. Anyone thinking of an engine like this to put in a non MFI car (like some T's or a 914) needs to have the fuel filter console and the fuel pump as well.

I'd say that motor was cleaned minutes before the pic was taken. What did it really look like beforehand? Look in some of the nooks and crannies and you can see.

Not trying to rain on your parade, Herman, just being realistic and practical.

Thanks again guys.

Milt, to be realistic and practical is exactly what I want to do. I do have some history from the previous owner that had it for 13 years and work that he has done on the car and the injectors , pump oil lines+ belt , heat exchanger , brakes fully redone ect... was some of the work that was done in the past 3 years .

I will post a pic of the 67 targa later today.... a lot of time and money was put into it ex- repainted , new front suspension pan, rockers , tires , BBS rims , steel "S" spoiler ect.. and it was all done by a shop so some of the receipts are pretty surprising.

The engine type has been messed with also so it hard to make out any clear #'s.

I just want a idea of what to ask for this motor... I dont have anything to hide and want to be fair, I plan to pull the motor later in the fall when I get back home from work.

thanks again

tcar · 07-23-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911st

It's highest potental value is in getting it back into the original body if possable.

If you have the Vin, try CarFax to see if it is still alive. If you or the body owner can not afford to do so, somone on the board may be initerested.

If you do not have the VIN, mabie Porsche can help you find what car it came with.

Carfax only works back to 1981; only 17 digit VIN's.

Cannot do the older 10 digit VIN's.

If no records, you'd have to go through Porsche.