What wheel color/finish are on the Singer Porsches?

[Don Nguyen]

I just doing a bit of research on wheel colors/finishes, and kind of like the way the finish on the wheels on the Singer Porsche look. It's almost like a matte silver-white-ish finish?



-Don

[enzo1]

2011 Singer Porsche 911 Wheels and Tires

The Singer 911 uses newly developed 17’’ forged aluminum three-piece wheels in the style of the iconic Fuchs wheels designed in the 1960’s. These wheels are extremely strong and lightweight.

• Wheel Sizes: 9”x17’’ front and 11”x17’’ rear.
• The wheels can be ordered with or without center caps at no extra charge.
• The wheels can be ordered with either closed black anodized aluminum lug nuts or with extended wheel studs and open aluminum lug nuts at no extra charge.

Note: Running these wheels without center caps and long studs gives a very track inspired look and again recalls the racing 911s of the 1960’s and ‘70’s.

• The wheels can be specified in one of four specially anodized and painted finishes all based on the iconic Fuchs wheels fitted to the 1973 Carrera RS and RSR at no extra charge:

- Finish 1: Polished lips, rough anodized barrels and spokes with satin black background (as seen on the Singer Concept 911).
- Finish 2: Polished lips, rough anodized barrels and polished spokes with satin black background.
- Finish 3: Polished lips, rough anodized barrels, satin black spokes and background.
- Finish 4: Polished lips, rough anodized barrels, with spokes and background painted in contrasting color.

• Tires are 225/45 x 17 front and 275/40 x 17 rear Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.
• A performance and track biased R Compound tire that is also road legal can be specified at no extra cost. These tires are designed for ultimate performance in dry and damp conditions and are not recommended for use in rain or standing water.

Tire sizes are 235/40 x 17 front and 275/40 x 17 rear - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup or Falken Azenis RT 615

[Canada Kev]

I believe the wheels are made by Zuffenhaus. That finish that you show looks like the RSR, likely done by Harvey Weidman. However, you could probably get them done any way you wanted. The wheels on the third (white) Singer look like they're probably painted.



Mine are done by Harvey and is the RSR finish.

[Don Nguyen]

Thanks for the link , enzo, so much info on those cars in there. I guess Singer calls it a rough anodized finish? Even though not a whole lot comes up when searching google with that term.

[RSTarga]

call up Harvey Weidman he is the expert on these wheels.

[Canada Kev]

Yeah, the finish on Harvey's RSR is a rough finish. Except for the wheel lip which is somewhat polished looking. It's kind of a blasted sort of texture. I would liken it to the feel of some 4-600 grit wet sand paper.

[JeremyD]

Wheels are Zuffenhaus

Finish on the Singer cars is RSR rough via Harvey Weidman. From the ones that I've seen - the rough finish RSR is tough to clean and keep clean.

Mine are Zuffenhaus (9 x 17 and 11 x 17) - Jeff Alton Fuchs - but in the smoother RSR (AL Reed) finish

[Canada Kev]

Jeremy: Actually, mine are pretty easy to clean. They do hold the brake dust very well and so seem to get dirty somewhat easily, but it comes off without much effort. If they get really nasty, a shot of P21 works wonders. I have also found that it is fairly important to rinse well with whatever method of cleaning, as any brake dust in behind will tend to mix with the water and run down and pool in the bottom of the wheel rim. It's good if they're dry before you drive.

[JeremyD]

Then I stand corrected. The guy I know tracked his car and vowed never again for that finish.

[PcarPhil]

I have Zuffenhaus wheels with Weidman RSR finish. On day one I applied Gibbs penetrating oil on the entire wheel faces, and have periodically reapplied (every other month or so) since then. This makes keeping the wheels clean easy. No other maintenance other than washing them with car wash soap during car washes.

[Canada Kev]

Wow, looks good, Scott! Is there a thread here with some more pics or build details? Very nice.

I collect a fair amount of brake dust, but it seems to wash off pretty easily. Maybe with elevated wheel/brake temperatures and the sheer volume of dust on the wheels of a track car, it might get baked in? The Gibbs oil sounds like a good idea. Did it change the colour or anything on the wheels?

[PcarPhil]

Originally Posted by syzygy

Wow, looks good, Scott! Is there a thread here with some more pics or build details? Very nice.

Here's the main build thread for my car. I haven't updated it in awhile with recent changes but there is plenty in there:
My 1977 911 S widebody backdate project

Originally Posted by syzygy

I collect a fair amount of brake dust, but it seems to wash off pretty easily. Maybe with elevated wheel/brake temperatures and the sheer volume of dust on the wheels of a track car, it might get baked in? The Gibbs oil sounds like a good idea. Did it change the colour or anything on the wheels?

While the wheels are 'wet' during the Gibbs application process the wheel finish darkens oh so slightly but once dry the finish color is the same as it was before. Just follow the instructions on the can and all will be well.

Gibbs penetrating oil is great stuff. I've started using it on many metal finishes. Works great on cleaning up cloudy anodized trim as well. Again reapply every so often.

[Don Nguyen]

Interesting. I guess I will have to give Harvey Weidman a call one of these days.

-Don

[Noah930]

I'm running a set of those Zuffenhaus/Weidman RSR wheels. The finish is a little bit hard to keep clean. I do have some greasy fingerprints and a couple small spots from splattered oil/grease that I haven't been able to get rid of completely using regular car wash soap. I'll have to try the Gibbs penetrating oil.

[quozl]

So am I correct in thinking that if I order a set of the Zuffenhaus they use Harvey Weidman to finish the wheels in RSR rough finish or do I have to request that from Zuffenhaus or arrange myself to have them sent to Harvey after I buy them from Zuffenhaus?

Trying to figure out how to do this and get the correct finish and then get them sent to Australia so any help / info is appreciated.

Cheers Al

[Noah930]

By default, Zuff sends their wheels to Harvey for the paint/finish. But if you want, you can have them sent elsewhere. A couple of members on this board have had their sets of Zuff wheels done with Al Reed's RSR finish.

[Don Nguyen]

I wonder if Al Reeds can do the same finish? He is about 20 mins from me, and it'd be easier to drop off the wheels to him.

-Don

[quozl]

Originally Posted by Noah930

By default, Zuff sends their wheels to Harvey for the paint/finish. But if you want, you can have them sent elsewhere. A couple of members on this board have had their sets of Zuff wheels done with Al Reed's RSR finish.

Thanks for the info Noah, happy with the rough finish that Harvey does, its exactly what I'm after, now to sell the set of 15 x 9 & 11 Braid RSR reps and the 16" Fuchs to finance the purchase.

Cheers Al

[Will I Be]

Does anyone know what ET/offset Singer typically ran on the Fuchs style 17-inch wheels front and back?