Need picture of 911 with 16X7 Fuchs F&B
 

I need to see a photo of a 911 with 16X7 Fuchs on the front and back at the same time. In other words, 4 16X7 Fuchs at one time. Does anyone know of any problems doing this?

Also, is there any difference in the appearance of the car while using 16X8 versus 16X9 Fuchs in the rear? Is the only difference between the two rims is the depth of penetration in the fender wells.

I run 4 7x16 on a narrow body.

no problem for my act

many different acts

mnmasotto:

I have seen several photos of narrow body 911's with 16X7 Fuchs front and rear, but do not recall seeing any SC's or Carrera's with this setup.

Most of the extra rim width between a Fuchs 16X8 & 16X9 is in the inner portion of the rim. But, I sure seem to be able to tell the difference in photos and in person. I have 9's on the rear of my 87 Carrera and I love the look and extra rubber on the pavement. I also like their lightness, period correct diameter and piece of mind that they are proven safe.

I have no affiliation, but Jason Cullen gave me a GREAT deal on a new set of 9" Fuchs a while back. I believe he has new sets in stock. Jason is an excellent person to deal with.

Mike

I run 7" Fuchs all around and have posted this as an answer before. Sorry, no pics.

205 fronts with 225's rear.

Have also recently added 21mm factory spacers on the rear to try to mimic 8"...looks fine and more importantly, works and drives fine.

without looking into my paperwork.. if Jason's shop is in S Calif I believe he also set me up.

great to deal with and has a good rep.

Fuchs
 

I already have 9X16's on the back. Unfortunately, I am having problems with the rubber oil line rubbing against the tire. I am probably going to switch to a more narrow rim to avoid further oil line destruction.

NO problems with 16x7 Fuchs on front and back.
I was doing this for autocross/track using 205/55/16 in front and 225/50/16 in rear.
Probably could also do 225/50/16 on 16x7 Fuchs all the way around as my front fenders are rolled, but not sure if my 1.5 degrees of negative camber would be enough.

Here are some pics with this setup.

Hope this helps!

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This is the first time I've heard someone complain of the 9's rubbing the oil lines. This certainly is quite rare, but I guess all of our cars are a little different, to some degree. My wrench 'warned' me of this potential, which is partially why I went with 16x8's in the rear. The visible lip depth of a 8 and 9 are essentially identical. As mentioned above, the extra 1" of the 9 is not visible , but the difference in appearance is that the lug holes on the 9 is recessed.

Wow. Now *that* is a hot looking ride.

Thanks MIK911, but I will always be in the shadows of yours!!:D

7x16 all around the Batmobile.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227202817.jpg

[cue Darth Vader voice]
Sweeeeeeet!

I and a friend run 16x7 all around with 225/50. It's not the fastest setup, but it's still fast and predictable. The key is to add to the rear some 21mm 928 or 28mm 930 spacers with longer studs, to keep the rear track width at least as wide as the front.

Here's me chasing said friend at Blackhawk Farms- both of us on 4 16x7 with 225/50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHYwvfPwxFk

I switched to 225/245 with 16x8/9 this year and friend was still hanging with me at that track- punk pulled 2 seconds out of his arse somewhere because I for certain improved my times!!!! :mad:

Here's mine.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227212991.jpg
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I suppose the ones who run the same wheels and tires front and back have the advantage of rotating the wear factor evenly amongst the tires of the same set and time. I have 2 sets of 6"&7"X16's and 6"&8"X16's which I'm going to turn into one set of 6" all around and one set of 7x8s.

Quincy,

How do you like that set up? I currently use 16 x 7 w/ 205's and 16 x 9's w/245's for autocross. I've been thinking about using 7's all around or dropping to 8's in the rear with 225's to cut down on some understeer.

[QUOTE=tshih;4315247]I suppose the ones who run the same wheels and tires front and back have the advantage of rotating the wear factor evenly amongst the tires of the same set and time.

That's my thinking, since I run a lot of front neg camber and actually tend to wear out the fronts first. I don't track the car anymore.

When I rotate the tires this spring I'm going to add a 6 mm spacer to the rears to bring the tires out closer to the body.

Matt, I am not an expert but I have alwas wondered about such an approach. I just can not get my head around how giving up traction in the rear is going to help the front. It might alow the rear to come around quicker with less traction.

Can you get more bite by adding more neg camber, wider front tires, toe out, or just carring more gas? I think somone in the know told me that increasing front rake can help to??

Hey Paul, my car is similar to yours and my 16x7 dont fit well in the rear. Mine will rub the fenders. How did you get yours to tuck underneath, and lower your beauty. I would like to run 16x7 fuchs, and lowered like yours, but gave up on the lowering part because of the rubbing problem. Do the fuchs have different offsets?

my 1st 911,

Since I don't track the car anymore, I was more interested in how it looked on the street than how it performed on track. I set it up so the rear is @ the same ht as the tire dia, which means it is actually about 1/4" or so above the tire since the tire flats a little on the bottom. Then I set the front 5/8" higher which gives it a slightly nose down attitude.

AFAIK the Fuchs 16x7 only have one offset. I think The 8s have 2.

I still have some room in the rear so I think I'll add 6mm spacers @ the rear next spring. I'll just have to try them and see if there is any rubbing.

The lips on the srches are stock; not rolled or trimmed.

What tires are you using? I went w/ the 50 series because I like the look and the change it makes in overall gearing. Again, since I'm on the street , I like the better acceleration @ the sacrifice of overall top end. Remember, different tire brands can measure out differently despite having the same spec. A wider tire may cause a problem, but I don't know @ which point this would occur.

Also, if you have a pre 74 (I think) the flare, such as it is, is actually slightly less than the later S version.

Thanks for your kind remark.

A better look @ the wheels.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1227299005.jpg

Everybody needs to remember that 1977 Paul's yellow 911 does not have SC/Carrera flares (the flares began in '78) and therefore the 16x7 wheels will fill-out the rear of the car MUCH more than a 78-89 911. That's why the recommendation of spacers or bolt-on adapters is mentioned for the flared 78-89 cars- because 16x7 up front creates a wider front track and the rears still have lots of room to move outboard because of the much larger SC/Carrera flares. Spacers (or wider 16x8, 16x9 wheels) help fill-out the wheel arches better.

Paul brought up something I wasn't aware of--that is, rear flares from 69-73. I had assumed they were the same as those on 74-77 cars. I've had 69's, 73's and a 75, but not concurrently so I can't compare. Can anyone confirm if the flare is a bit different between pre and post 74? If it is, it must be very minimal.:confused:

Hey Paul, its late, and I am not sure on brand, but I am running 225 50 16 and I rub. Mine is a 76s, with chrome around the arches. I will remove the chrome, but my car is at stock hight, and i rub around corners, or with a passenger. The picture looks like your rear wheel is tucked behind the wheel well and lowered. I really love the look, but i rub without lowering the car. I have 6x16 up front, and would like to run 7x16 eventually. I'm new at all this, so it will take time to understand all the cool things to do. Making mine look a little like yours is top priority. Here is pic of mine with the 16's at stock height[

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I have room, but the tire sticks out just enough to rub over bumps, and turns

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Will attempt to upload...77' 911S with 205X55/16. Stock suspension for the Colorado back country....

So are you saying that without spacers in the rear of a Carrera, then the front tracks wider than the rear if I am running 7s all around, and this is detrimental?

I have some spacers leftover from the previous owner that I will probably throw on, I think they are 8 or 10mm. I have been thinking of larger spacers but was avoiding restuds or lip rolling. How necessary running all 7s.?

my1st911,

My tires are 205/50 so they are approx 3/4" narrower than yours. Your tires are also about 3/8" taller. That, coupled w/ the characteristics of the particular brand of tire, may be enough to cause the rub.

Your ride height seems more than sufficient to me to allow for clearance, though. In fact, from the pic, it looks like the center of the arch is at least 1 1/2" above the tire. I'm wondering if there is another issure here, like worn shocks or worn rear suspension bushings, which are allowing the body to fall onto the tire under load.

OregonCab,

W/ 7s and the same sized tires all around I think the rear track may be SLIGHTLY smaller. Whether this is problematic, I think, may be down to driving habits and car usage. The LOOK would be greatly improved by using the spacers to fill out the arches. Most likely a wider rear track would allow less oversteer and/or improve turnin.

Aircooled911 has what I felt was the max dia for 16x7s on mid years; namely 205/55. I wanted to go slightly smaller (50) so I could go lower w/o issues.

Ossiblue,

As I wrote, I think that is the case re flare sizes. If someone knows this is incorrect, please let us know so w get this right.


Remember, what I did is what I feel is a good aesthetic approach, especially for the type and location of driving I'm doing. If you are tracking the car you may want to explore other options, such as wider rear wheels, larger rear tires, welding on wider flares, etc. As KTL points out, SCs and Carreras already have wider flares, and can accommodate 8s on the rear, although the original post by mnmasauto referred to 7s on an earlier car.

35mm Adapters on rear