Wood Floorboards

[Mr9146]

We just remanufactured a PERFECT wooden reproduction floor board for one of our customers. The curve is PERFECT. The fit is PERFECT. We have one for coupes and one for Targas so the part will fit properly, just like it came from the factory.

We supply the floor board and you supply the hardware - all you need to do is drill the rivets out of your old floorboards and transfer the hardware to the new one. TA-DA!!! Perfect wood floorboard.

Now, you don't have to feel forced into using ABS plastic or drilled aluminum reproductions. These suckers are LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT, too.

The boards will fit all 911s with a rubber gas pedal PERFECTLY, and with slight modification will also fit the plastic pedal cars up to the 1986 Carrera or 1988 Turbo.

Feel free to post any questions or comments.

[RWebb]

It is great that these are being made, but the price is too much for me.

I can steam a piece of plywood and then cut it out for a lot less than that.

[kfosburg]

Looks nice. When will they be available from Pelican Parts and roughly how much?

Karl 71 911E

[Mr9146]

Originally Posted by kfosburg

Looks nice. When will they be available from Pelican Parts and roughly how much?

Karl 71 911E

We hope to have them in the Pelican catalogue by the beginning of next week.

The price is going to be $175 ... a comparable piece from Stoddard will set you back about $275.

[Zeke]

I have all the patterns including the Sportomatic. Never got the bending down. Good work, Marco. I love it when something comes to fruition. Wanna try some protractors now?

[Mr9146]

Originally Posted by milt

I have all the patterns including the Sportomatic. Never got the bending down. Good work, Marco. I love it when something comes to fruition. Wanna try some protractors now?

Thanks, Milt.

As you know, the process is actually more difficult than people would like to believe, especially when you have to get it PERFECT. That's why nobody's offered a quality reproduction in wood ... until now.


BTW, I am still looking for a good set of SWB boards that I can use to make repros as well. Please feel free to PM me if you have a set.

[gsmith660]

Originally Posted by Mr9146

We hope to have them in the Pelican catalogue by the beginning of next week.

The price is going to be $175 ... a comparable piece from Stoddard will set you back about $275.

I agree pricey I paid 75 for my Aluminum floorboard and dont have to worry about delamination of the wood and it is also Light, light, light. Also it came with all the hardware no drilling required.

[JMatta]

This gives the true concours guys (or purists) an option. I know alot of people that would prefer this over an aluminum piece...I'm just trying to keep mine in one piece!

[Mr9146]

Originally Posted by gsmith660

I agree pricey I paid 75 for my Aluminum floorboard and dont have to worry about delamination of the wood and it is also Light, light, light. Also it came with all the hardware no drilling required.

I agree that they're not for everyone.

However, the aluminum and plastic reproductions have no provision for a gas pedal stop which is necessary for use with a rubber gas pedal. The aluminum and plastic pieces are a "one size fits most" approach to the problem. Those who want to keep their cars original will appreicate the fact that they can use the right parts for their cars.

Also, I expect that the price is a bagain if my part lasts for 30+ years before it starts delaminating, just like the factory piece.

In the spirit of friendly competition I'll take the Pepsi challenge with an aluminum floorboard any day of the week when it comes to weight.

Another bonus, if you're building a repli-racer (R, RS, RSR, ST, etc.), you can swiss cheese the wooden floorboard and get the PERFECT, factory look without sacrificing your priceless original.

[gsmith660]

If that wood lasts 30+ years then there is a miracle in our midst. Dont take offense but yours is not factory like the stoddard piece and therefore should not command a premium price my stock wooden floorboard made it 15 years in the damp Hawaiian climate and then the damp midwest. As for concours anyone using yours will take a hit because it is still aftermarket it is not original please dont market it like it is that insults all our integrity. My only problem here is your marketing this like it is PERFECT and commanding a high price for it just like the greedy dealers of the smartcars are marking up the price to 35% over MSRP because it is the PERFECT solution to high gas prices. Thats just my own opinion now I'm outta here. Again dont take offense but I just spent the last 2 months watching this guy piggyback his E-85 with rising gas prices and this just looks the same, the product just shouldn't command a price any higher than the other aftermarket parts out there of a similar nature.

[Mr9146]

Originally Posted by gsmith660

If that wood lasts 30+ years then there is a miracle in our midst. Dont take offense but yours is not factory like the stoddard piece and therefore should not command a premium price my stock wooden floorboard made it 15 years in the damp Hawaiian climate and then the damp midwest. As for concours anyone using yours will take a hit because it is still aftermarket it is not original please dont market it like it is that insults all our integrity. My only problem here is your marketing this like it is PERFECT and commanding a high price for it just like the greedy dealers of the smartcars are marking up the price to 35% over MSRP because it is the PERFECT solution to high gas prices. Thats just my own opinion

Why wouldn't the wood last 30 years? Do you plan to soak it in a bathtub? Maybe I should amend my previous statement to say that if it lasts 10 years it's a relative bargain...

And I don't recall ever mentioning concours anything. I merely said that I would rather see a wooden floorboard in a 911 than ABS plastic or aluminum; my part would give people a viable third option.

Also, I don't know where you got your info, but the Stoddard part is not a factory piece. From my estimation of the one that I had - still with the Stoddard sticker on it - it was a poor reproduction. That's why I felt the need to make a quality reproduction part.

As for your taking umbrage with my "marketing", I can't do anything about that. Maybe this will help...

Here's what I can tell you about me: I've been involved with Porsches for a long time. I saw a hole in a niche market that needed to be filled. I filled it. We brought a part to the market that gives people an option if they don't like the ABS plastic or aluminum boards that are currently available. I've been at this a long time and have a good reputation that I intend to protect ... if anyone's integrity is on the line here it's mine and my shop's. We made a good part and are offering it at a competitive price.

[jcunning]

I like the option and I appreciate the hardwork it takes to bring a product to market. Hopefully you sell enough to make up the time and effort required to bring this to market.

My floorboards are on their way out so I will look at all the options when the time comes.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by gsmith660

If that wood lasts 30+ years then there is a miracle in our midst. Dont take offense but yours is not factory like the stoddard piece and therefore should not command a premium price my stock wooden floorboard made it 15 years in the damp Hawaiian climate and then the damp midwest. As for concours anyone using yours will take a hit because it is still aftermarket it is not original please dont market it like it is that insults all our integrity. My only problem here is your marketing this like it is PERFECT and commanding a high price for it just like the greedy dealers of the smartcars are marking up the price to 35% over MSRP because it is the PERFECT solution to high gas prices. Thats just my own opinion now I'm outta here. Again dont take offense but I just spent the last 2 months watching this guy piggyback his E-85 with rising gas prices and this just looks the same, the product just shouldn't command a price any higher than the other aftermarket parts out there of a similar nature.

- Wow - incredibly harsh.

Advantages of this piece are the gas pedal stop (maybe can be added to a poly floorboard]
and
exact bend of the wood (See milt & Marco, above)

For me it's too much if I could find a good old one or mod a poly floorboard; but many will find it valuable.

[Scott at Pelican Parts]

Tough crowd.

It will be a great addition to our catalog, Marco.

[gsmith660]

I will add this and apologize for offending anyone here is a link to Stoddards web site it is the most expensive of the pedal boards and does include most of the hardware and has a Porsche part number, its 10 dollars cheaper than yours with no hardware. the repro parts on this page were in line with the money paid for the one I have. I neither intended to be harsh or hard on anyone just fair, dont bill something as the end all be all if it isn't. I support Pelican Parts with the majority of my parts purchases you have gotten some hard to find parts for me and I am forever in your debt and have a long list on my project list yet to get and it is getting longer.
http://www.*************/shop/shopexd.asp?id=3421 Also this link is here to get my point across an nothing more I am not advocating buying anything from a competitor.

[Mr9146]

Originally Posted by gsmith660

I will add this and apologize for offending anyone here is a link to Stoddards web site it is the most expensive of the pedal boards and does include most of the hardware and has a Porsche part number, its 10 dollars cheaper than yours with no hardware. the repro parts on this page were in line with the money paid for the one I have. I neither intended to be harsh or hard on anyone just fair, dont bill something as the end all be all if it isn't. I support Pelican Parts with the majority of my parts purchases you have gotten some hard to find parts for me and I am forever in your debt and have a long list on my project list yet to get and it is getting longer.
http://www.*************/shop/shopexd.asp?id=3421 Also this link is here to get my point across an nothing more I am not advocating buying anything from a competitor.

I appreciate you proving my point with that link.

Here's what I see in that link:
1) the pedal stop should be nylon, not a bolt. If you're buying claimed "original" parts it logically follows that you should be provided with "original" hardware
2) the floor in a SWB car is different than a LWB car and therefore the pedal boards for one will not properly fit the other. Stoddard, being the reputable parts supplier that they are () should know this and market their products accordingly.

[gsmith660]

Originally Posted by Mr9146

I appreciate you proving my point with that link.

Here's what I see in that link:
1) the pedal stop should be nylon, not a bolt. If you're buying claimed "original" parts it logically follows that you should be provided with "original" hardware
2) the floor in a SWB car is different than a LWB car and therefore the pedal boards for one will not properly fit the other. Stoddard, being the reputable parts supplier that they are () should know this and market their products accordingly.
3) the cut on the Stoddard floorboard is wrong next to the gas pedal where the board sits on the tunnel and it is not accurate for a LWB coupe or targa

I dont feel I am proving your point at all where is the 275 dollar part? I imagine that the bolt is because the proper part is NLA. It does have a Porsche part number therefore is factory, maybe it is made in China and therefore doesn't fit I dont know. I am not going to get in a pissing contest over this because I don't need it, just market it for what it is a reproduction and price it accordingly not higher than the OEM price IMHO that is bad form. That said I will not respond to any more post let people make thier own choice and I hope you do well.

[Zeke]

I didn't know about the difference between SWB and long. Since I don't know exactly which cars my floorboards came from, I can't be sure what I have. I just know a Targa from a coupe and the obvious 2-hole Sporto with the wood factory foot rest, or dead pedal. What I did see was some variation between boards from the same model. Is that consistent with your findings or did I mix some SWB's into the fold?

[Mr9146]

Originally Posted by gsmith660

I dont feel I am proving your point at all where is the 275 dollar part? I imagine that the bolt is because the proper part is NLA. It does have a Porsche part number therefore is factory, maybe it is made in China and therefore doesn't fit I dont know. I am not going to get in a pissing contest over this because I don't need it, just market it for what it is a reproduction and price it accordingly not higher than the OEM price IMHO that is bad form. That said I will not respond to any more post let people make thier own choice and I hope you do well.

I appreciate your concern on this subject. The $275 part I referenced was actually $260.70 and can be found - with 911 part numbers - at the top of following link:

http://www.*************/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?Search=Yes

Also, Stoddard's fitment listings are perpetually incorrect and the parts that they sell as quality reproductions rarely fit as advertised. (see previous post/link)

Again, I never claimed my floorboard was an original part. I very clearly stated it was a PERFECT reproduction of a 911 floorboard and that I am offering it through Pelican parts. If you don't need it, don't want it or don't like it, please don't buy it.

[gsmith660]

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