whats this plastic piece?

[ramonesfreak]

while searching my pedal cluster to look for something broken that could have caused a throttle sticking problem, i came across this white plastic piece. its very hard and not brittle. i thought it could be a bushing but it seems too small and the way its broken looks unlike a broken bushing?

any ideas?

[robert walsh]

it is a nylon bushing from somewhere down in your pedal cluster, either clutch or accelerator. not very definitive but hope it helps.

[ramonesfreak]

are you positive? even though its so small? i looked around pretty carefully and didnt see any missing bushings or even anyplace that was small enough for this to fit. I may have taken a decent photo of the pedal cluster when i found this. ill post it if its focused ok

[poorsha]

I have no idea what it is but I do know it's time for a manicure

[Joe Bob]

Those nails will buff out.....

[ramonesfreak]

could the bushing have come from this?

[Ed Cavalier]

Looks like an accelerator rod bushing. There are 3 (I think) of them along the accelerator rod through the tunnel. Kind of pain to get to them. Remove the handbrake/heater controls, the gear shift, and the shift linkage cover (depending on which one you need to replace.). They're held in place by metal tangs that are bent around them. I had to replace mine years ago. Ten seconds of stupidity that required 4 hours of work to fix.

Ed

[mikeatfhc]

Cutch cable clevis?

[poorsha]

No.
I think you have found a piece of crap that got dragged in by your shoe.
Now go get those nails looked at.

[ramonesfreak]

im booked for a 2 O'clock nail job tomorrow, this way ill be home just in time for Oprah


-this plastic piece...if you look at the hole..its irregular. not perfectly circular the way a bushing would be which leads me to believe its a piece of crap

[ossiblue]

Originally Posted by srandallf

im booked for a 2 O'clock nail job tomorrow, this way ill be home just in time for Oprah


-this plastic piece...if you look at the hole..its irregular. not perfectly circular the way a bushing would be which leads me to believe its a piece of crap

If it's an accelerator rod bushing, or any bushing for that matter, the irregular hole could be from the movement of the rod wearing through one side of the bushing because of tension/pressure on that side, effectively "sawing" a path to the tensioned side. Just a guess but you may want to consider it before passing it off as a POC

[ramonesfreak]

ok. that makes sense. ive been trying diagnose why my throttle stuck yesterday so i will consider anything, though if its in the tunnel, im not too happy. i found it right under and to the right of the gas pedal

[Ed Cavalier]

I thought I had one within easy reach out in the garage to post a picture of a new one. No such luck. Here's the Pelican part number that links to a schematic diagram of where they live: 901-423-227-00-OEM

Hopefully you can use a mirror to look into the tunnel from the pedal cluster end and from the shift linkage cover. Maybe you can see if you're missing either the frontmost or rearmost bushing. The middle one may be a lot hader to see.

Ed

[Alan L]

There is a bushing like that on the clutch cable fork pin. Where your cable mounts to the pedal linkage.
PITA to get at - you won't find it unless you become a dwarf gymnast and look into the tunnel where the pedal linkage disappears into. Need to remove centre console. And hire a dwarf.
Do you have any clutch pedal slop?
Alan

[Jim Sims]

Definitely a plastic bushing from the clutch pedal shaft arm to clutch cable fork pivot joint. Wear/loss of this part and the mating parts (clutch pedal shaft arm, clutch cable fork and the pin that secures the assembly together) can affect clutch action - false free play may result. If the plastic bushing hole in the clutch pedal shaft arm has been worn out of round the replacement shafts are about $100; some are NLA. I recently rebuilt a pedal cluster and all parts in this joint required replacement (bushing, shaft, fork and pin). If you remove the driver's side foot well carpeting and floor board and the accelerator pedal one can sometimes inspect this pivot joint using a flashlight. It appears a pedal cluster rebuild may be warranted.

[robert walsh]

it is a bushing from the cluster, it doesn't symetrical because it is worn out and split, perhaps years ago, though it does seem a coincidence that you also have your throttle problem. if it is from years ago there is the possibility that someone has already replaced it and never found the part you have in your hand. a bushing is a bushing etc. best of luck

[Alan L]

The clutch cable linkage is extremely close to the throttle linkage. If your dwarf can find the clutch connector, he/she (do they have girl dawrfs?) will also find the throttle linkage is almost touching the clutch bit. If the clutch bit has gotten out of whack due to wear in clevis pin, due to no bush, I suspect the two will be touching.
Alan

[ramonesfreak]

well i have more learning and exploring to do i guess.

i have no pedal slop. pedals feel fine. the only thing I noticed at all concerning was the throttle parts, shown in the photo above- had a side to side movement where they attached to the floor mount - but very little. not enough that it made me worry when i discovered it

it didnt seem like any bushings were missing in the actual pedal cluster. perhaps im not seeing something. i have not looked in the tunnel. not sure how im gonna do that.

i dont know what to do here. seems that my throttle sticking probelm came from a broken cruise control cable in the engine compartment - BUT - i did seem to sense that the gas pedal went in as the clutch pedal was depressed which would indicate the two cables getting mixed...however, i am not 100% if that is what happened

whats throwing me is, this bushing - if thats what it is, is pretty thick. its overall circumference is pretty small, but its fairly wide. seems to me that if it were missing from my system somewhere that i would notice alot of loosenes or slop in either the clutch or throttle...but perhaps im lacking in the basics of understanding how these parts work

-- and regarding the various areas in the tunnel --- well doesnt the fact that i found this piece under the gas pedal indicate that is must have come from either the pedal cluster parts or else not very far into the tunnel. i cant imagine how if it were in the middle or back part of the car that it would make its way all the way up to the front

[Alan L]

The clutch linkage is not far into the tunnel. Your throttle cable hooks on there too. They run together - side by side.
The slop may have been adjusted out of the clutch - but if that is the bush from your clutch you need to get in there. You will run out of a clutch one day - sheared clevis pin.
I just found same on one of mine few months back. Bush gone - having some probs adjusting clutch properly. Clevis pin almost cut right thru - another 1000 miles or so - poof - no clutch.
Follow the linkage trail from your pedal cluster to the point it disappears in the tunnel. Find the linkage points - both throttle and clutch are side by side.
Alan

[ramonesfreak]

ok. thanks for the input.
ill have to get the floor board up again and starting looking more closely for missing bushings. i didnt notice any a few days ago but perhaps i wasnt looking in the right spot or, didnt know what to look for. i will probably try to post some clear close-up pics this weekend so that perhaps someone can give me a 2nd opinion. in the meantime, im reading about this clevis pin problem for the first time

here is one of the better links i have found regarding the problem
Something just snapped in my clutch.

-i shall return in a few days