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alniki 11-09-2008 07:51 PM

See if you feel better after reading this
 
Living in Taiwan, it costs the equivalent of USD 1100 per year for tax alone to run a 911 or any car with a displacement between 3.0L and 3.6L. Running an American V8, a Porsche 928, or a British RR/Bentley with a displacement above 5.4L would be $2500, makes me miss the days when I drove a '77 Buick Le Sabre in Illinois.

The tag prices of the latest 997 with PDK are :
Carrera 170K,
Carrera S 190K,
Carrera Cabriolet 184K,
Carrera S Cabriolet 205K.

The Ferrari F430 would set you back at 485K, brand new.
A '06 F360 Spider would be about 300K while a '96 F512M still asks for 160K at present, though both are in very good condition.

Lamboghini sells at the same price level as Ferrari but not as popular though an official distributor was just launched in Taipei.

What about housing, or more specifically, a garage space for working on your old 911? No way in Taipei unless you are a billionaire and yes, most people here who drive Porsche, Ferrari, or Lambo seem to be billionaires. Pre 996 Porsche 911 is a rare bird now and I've never met another Targa on the road.

Joe V 11-09-2008 07:57 PM

That's a shame that there aren't more wealthy people over there that want to own a Targa.

DasBoot 11-09-2008 08:01 PM

Yeah, but...you've got these:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...tex2008-08.jpg

poorsha 11-09-2008 08:33 PM

"Yeah, but...you've got these: "
How much for a ride (I will definately need insurance)??? :)

DasBoot 11-09-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poorsha (Post 4293279)
How much for a ride (I will definately need insurance)??? :)

I'm certain they're less expensive than the U.S. versions. Especially in the long-term.

poorsha 11-09-2008 08:48 PM

They gotta be less expensive than the US "pretend to be Japanese " version I have been married to for the past 20 something years (The reason I am driving a 30 year old 911 and not a new one).

DasBoot 11-09-2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poorsha (Post 4293299)
They gotta be less expensive than the US "pretend to be Japanese " version I have been married to for the past 20 something years (The reason I am driving a 30 year old 911 and not a new one).

Well, if you're the one that indoctrinated her into American customs & lifestyle, you have only yourself to blame. :)

Bart_dood 11-09-2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alniki (Post 4293220)
Living in Taiwan, it costs the equivalent of USD 1100 per year for tax alone to run a 911 or any car with a displacement between 3.0L and 3.6L. Running an American V8, a Porsche 928, or a British RR/Bentley with a displacement above 5.4L would be $2500, makes me miss the days when I drove a '77 Buick Le Sabre in Illinois.

The tag prices of the latest 997 with PDK are :
Carrera 170K,
Carrera S 190K,
Carrera Cabriolet 184K,
Carrera S Cabriolet 205K.

The Ferrari F430 would set you back at 485K, brand new.
A '06 F360 Spider would be about 300K while a '96 F512M still asks for 160K at present, though both are in very good condition.

Lamboghini sells at the same price level as Ferrari but not as popular though an official distributor was just launched in Taipei.

What about housing, or more specifically, a garage space for working on your old 911? No way in Taipei unless you are a billionaire and yes, most people here who drive Porsche, Ferrari, or Lambo seem to be billionaires. Pre 996 Porsche 911 is a rare bird now and I've never met another Targa on the road.


That sucks, I don't understand how crushingly excessive taxation is supposed to encourage people to work harder and better themselves and their careers?

Its not that I am some ultra right winger who thinks the rich shouldn't be taxed, or the middle class, but some governments work under the impression their sole purpose and existance is to find new and novel ways to hurt peoples wallets, then they blow all the money on garbage projects.

Rant over.

alniki 11-09-2008 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart_dood (Post 4293364)
some governments work under the impression their sole purpose and existance is to find new and novel ways to hurt peoples wallets, then they blow all the money on garbage projects.

Rant over.

I'm afraid that's the case in many a country...

Now comes the good news: if you don't mind torturing yourself with the high tax, maintenance expenses, and hiring a chauffeur you can have a '94 Rolls-Royce SILVER SPUR lll at less than 50K. Just make sure you can find a buyer later.

Must say I pretty much appreciate that Porsche made such sports or super cars affordable and still practical as used ones for more people to enjoy them.

rnln 11-10-2008 12:53 AM

:eek: :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4293235)


3.2 CAB 11-10-2008 06:32 AM

Calm down Ron. Tony.

RWebb 11-10-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poorsha (Post 4293299)
They gotta be less expensive than the US "pretend to be Japanese " version I have been married to for the past 20 something years (The reason I am driving a 30 year old 911 and not a new one).

you're aware of the term J.A.P.??

well, you now have one -- but instead of Jewish, substitute Japanese

besides, the well-known BAP, the Chinese 1 child only policy + economic growth has created the CAP (or should it be ChAP?)

enjoy!

if you [1] do everything they say, AND [2] do everything they think they want - even before they say it - then things will be fine...

alniki 11-10-2008 04:13 PM

Guys, guess there were some misunderstanding.

I live in Taiwan and I'm talking about Taiwan, a de facto independent country.

Not China, and No China. Thank you!

TRE Cup 11-10-2008 04:21 PM

what are those girls wearing? Paper clothing ? yuck


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