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Is Triad West Performance Still in Business?

I have tried numerous times to contact Triad West Performance to no aval! The phone number on their web site is no longer in service and they do not answer emails. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 02-24-2009, 04:31 PM
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Air flow question

I am wondering if anyone knows if my engine compartment on my 1987 Carrera gets more air with the Carerra Tail installed versus without the Carrera tail.
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Interesting pair of posts.

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I am wondering if anyone knows if my engine compartment on my 1987 Carrera gets more air with the Carerra Tail installed versus without the Carrera tail.

The air flow thing came up before. I think the consensus was that stock lid or tail, they are all in a low pressure area and the fan pulls hard enough to do the job.
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buy from a contributor to the site..or buy the M&K from the host...

M&K good stuff

Having said that.. I had a Triad on a car years ago... I guess back then I thought it was cool and made power..It was louder..
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buy from a contributor to the site..or buy the M&K from the host...



M&K good stuff



Having said that.. I had a Triad on a car years ago... I guess back then I thought it was cool and made power..It was louder..
Has anyone shown dyno gains when simply bolting on an MK? Seems too many people love loud and shiney mufflers.
Kinda ricey

The Triad has been tested BTW.
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The Triad has been tested BTW.
Really? your kidding me!!!

like this ?



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Has anyone shown dyno gains when simply bolting on an MK? Seems too many people love loud and shiney mufflers.
Kinda ricey
Triad is a few cherry bombs welded together in mild steel, Senor Bens M&K mufflers are Stainless.. last forever, etc. yada yada yada..

After many years of learning about car craft, racing, engine building. etc.... If you gave me a Triad , I'd place it promptly in the dumpster...
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So Tim. You like the shiney stainless. I can't fault that. Have you done a pre-/post- MK muffler dyno run?
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Nope,

Every time I roll my car back onto the dyno, I have usually made too many changes to track the detriment or benefit of any one change..

I have a few muffler systems that I use... I have dual Coasts, Megaphones, and Supercraps, and have a small bowl of spaghetti that Dawe made.. in addition to the M&K RSR. Which system I use depends on which track I'm going to...

If you want dyno numbers M&K would be the one to supply back to backs...

And yes I'll pay a bit more for a stainless part any day of the week.. i.e. its a one time investment..lasts forever...

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In the Triad.. all the gasses have to merge and pass through this one opening......



maybe I'm missing something...
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The most restrictive path of a stock or a some MK mufflers isn't much less (if so) restrictive than the neck on the Triad. You just can't see it because of the shell. As an engineer you know that we trade noise energy for power, and a well tuned muffler is a compromise between power and noise attenuation.

Ask the people who have sold their MK because it was too loud and had an unacceptable drone if they thought there was any power gain to compromise for the discomfort and embarassment of driving their loud cars down their street.

The Triad comparison is better than nothing from MK, yes?

I like stainless too, but function comes before beauty when it's on the underside of my car.

My point is that there are a lot of butt dyno experiences for loud shiney mufflers...and that leads to a lot of passionate claims of benefit without substance.

I'm not picking on you....and why not run the spaghetti all the time?

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and why not run the spaghetti all the time?

To loud...
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You just can't see it because of the shell
So the Triad is the internal path of gasses of a stock muffler without its shell?

curious.... not messing or picking on anyone...
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Tim, you know that wasn't the intent of the quote.

Where is the minimum cross sectional area of any of the mufflers, and what is the minimum cross sectional area of those mufflers? Can the flow and exhaust gas velocity of an engine of specific displacememt benefit from an increase in flow x-area to increase power?

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Wow.. I need to make some sort of clarification.

I don't drive my cars on the street... so I guess take my observations with a grain of salt... sorry..

I lose track of that lil tidbit sometimes..

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