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Cool Who knows this 4 door 911?

Hello Pelicans,

I just read an article about 4 door projects of the 911. This car belongs to Gil Ranney, and I wonder if anybody knows this special car?
Owner calls the car "Dachshund"





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Porsche had experimented with four-door, four-seat "coupes" all the way back to the days of the 356. This was one of two prototypes they built in 1969 to investigate the possibility of a four-door 911. The above car was the handsomer of the two, basically a stretched coupe. The other prototype had just two windows per side (three if you include the vent window) and wasn't as attractive...a concept that is, of course, entirely relative in this case...
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I know one of them was built by Dick Troutman in Costa Mesa.

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I know one of them was built by Dick Troutman in Costa Mesa.

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That might be the car as the plate looks to be a California black plate of that year, and the pictures by the ocean could very well be SoCal (though it has a different plate and wheels in that one photo.)
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The cars I mentioned were the "official" Porsche prototypes, built by Porsche, but you're absolutely right, Dick Troutman did build one on his own, in 1967, based on a 911S. It was commissioned by William Dick, a Texas Porsche distributor who had been urging Porsche to build a four-seater. And I think you're right, the car in the above photos is the Troutman-Barnes car: the photos look like at least one of them was part of a shoot on the California coast, another photo from which is on page 380 of Ludvigson's cinderblock-size three volumes, "Excellence Was Expected."
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I remember this car being displayed on the showroom floor of the San Antonio Tx VW/Porsche dealer back in the sixties. I believe it was a dark green (BRG)
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"Excellence Was Expected" pages 442-444

"This subtle point (that of Porsche being satisfied with building 2-seat sportscars exclusively) was lost on those who urged Porsche to build four-seater and four-door cars. One such lobbyist was William J. Dick, Jr., part owner of the San Antonio, Texas distributorship, Porsche Cars Southwest. Instead of just talking about a four-door Porsche, he built one. He commissioned Chuck Pelly to prepare a design for a stretched 911 and Troutman-Barnes of Los Angeles to build it. Starting with a new 911S, Dick's team extended the floor pan and wheelbase by twenty-one inches.

The resulting four-door 911 was a faithful and professional extension of Butzi Porsche's classic form. It had Porsche bucket seats for the rear passengers, and behind them was a walnut-floored package area. Both doors latched to the center pillar on each side, which was attractive and practical. The six-window proportions were well-planned, although, as Road&Track commented, the car "has a somewhat dachshund look about it". The unique four-door Porsche was a surprise gift to Mrs. William Dick at Christmas, 1967."
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Where is that car now?? It was built from at least one "fresh" car and thus was quite a sacrifice and project at the time. I like the looks of it.

It would be interesting to see beside the Panamera.
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The last 2 cars pictured appear to be different cars. Different wheels, flares, mirrors, headlights, and seats?
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Same car , built in California, for Mr Dick's wife. NOT a factory effort
Built by Troutman and Barnes

updated at a later date with flares, 7" fuchs, repaint, and i believe a motor transplant so it could get out of its own way
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The pic of the 4-door by the ocean has Texas plates, and could possibly have been taken on the Texas Gulf Coast?
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If my memory does not fail me didn't Road and Track Magazine or Car and Driver picture this car on one of their monthly covers back in the late 60's...?
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Interesting. The fourth picture from the top, second from bottom, shows steel wheels with other photos showing Fuchs.

Also of interest, one picture shows early seats without the head rests.

Cool car.
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Whoops! Guess Brian already covered this point. I also thought the mirrors were different...round, right?
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Looks like a Citroen knocked-up a 911...

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Nice Das Boot!
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IS it not ok to wear fuchs to the beach?



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I used to see that same 911 in my neighborhood in Huntington Beach. I think the guy was in our Orange County Region PCA but can't remember for sure.
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The two cars in the pictures are absolutely the same car. Note the distinctive SWB details. The license plate number says the car returned to calif. in '72-'73. Somebody reported seeing the car at a dealer in Colorado in the late 70's or early 80's. So where is the car now?
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That's the '69 Panamera.
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Another shot of the car not previously seen. Looks like early 70s in texas.


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