respray hood question

[911 Cab]

I have a 1989 911 Guards Red Cab showing some wear on the hood. I have rock chips and PO was to aggressive with a buffer resulting in some thin spots.

The rest of the paint on the car is in excellent condition. Has anyone had their hood resprayed in guards red and been happy with the results?

I would like to avoid blending in the fenders.

TJC

[Rot 911]

Having sprayed guards red I will be the first to tell you it is not an easy paint to match. You will need to get on good terms with a painter that is willing to keep mixing the paint until you get as close a match as possible. Even Porsche changes the makeup of guards red over the years.

[rgreeny]

I agree with Kurt V. I had an 86 with Guard Red paint that took me many tries to to get the paint to match. Well, everyone said it match but I could till see the color difference.

Get a shop that matched you color on your car.

Rob

[efhughes3]

Blending into the fenders is a thing you don't want to avoid....that helps you get away from the color matching dilemna.

[EarlyPorsche]

If your paint shop has a scanner that can read your "aged" paints color code then you are in good hands. Have them measure the color code from a bunch of points on the front bumper, both fenders, and the cowl. They will know what to do with an average of that.

[69911s]

It can be done but is not always easy best is to start by having it computer shot to match and then try some small test spray strips on spray cards and the paint shop can mix until colors match. it takes some mixing and testing but we just did it at our shop with a 61 impala bubble top that is corona creame with laquer and we did a regular paint to match and just sprayed the hood. perfect match.

[Mitch Leland]

First I would take it to a shop that deals in high end repairs... It's more than just match the color, air pressure, the amount of orange peel, or lack of, today's materials are different... all have a lot to do with the match. Also once you creep out on to the fenders it's a slippery slope, worst case is you break off the paint at the door door jamb. What's worst a bad blend line or repainting the fenders?

A high end shop that is experience with spot painting is your best chance. Also spot/touch painting sometimes will age differently so that is also something to consider. In your case I assume your paint has a clear coat so that's going in your favor.

Lasting you might do the touch up, then clear coat the entire fender which would resolve the blend line issue. Sorry for the rambling...

[efhughes3]

I've had my hood reshot with a blend onto the fenders, and I've also done a blend onto the rear fenders when I added the duck. Both of these were done on the recommendation of my painter in Dallas, who wasn't cheap, but knew his stuff. Sure, they do have to match more than just color, but a good shop can do the blend to ensure there is no color, texture or any other mismatch.

The red on my car is a tough one, which spurred some of this procedure. It isn't Guards Red. As I understand it, reds are one of the toughest colors to do.

[dshepp806]

Ed (or others): can you further comment on what this "blending" is? I know nothing about painting so I'm trying to learn the terms here.

Thanks,

Doyle

[efhughes3]

When my hood and tail were shot, the painter feathered into the surrounding body. Then, when color sanded, the texture was consistent and there was no "defined" line of demarcation between the new and existing paints.

[962porsche]

this is from a high end only shop . the first thing you need to do is find a painter not a sprayer . there are a lot of sprayers out there that call them selfs painters . as for matching guards red there are only 4 tints in that color if you can't match that then find a painter ! porsche single stage OE paint tends to go more yellow over time on the tops of the car . and more orange on the sides of the car. BASF ( glasurit ) has a thing called color max and color max mobile for solid colors . they are real spray outs with real paint . no other paint manufacture has it ! if they even have color chips its in ink not paint thats . as for paint scanners they are at best 85 percent accurate . the thing about refinishing is you get what you pay for . it like buying wine . if you pick the high end shop you will pay a high end price . must of the time i don't work on the lower end priced cars . why ? becouse some one with a car thats only worth up to say 50K does not want to pay a high end shop 125 plus an hour . you would not want to pay me 1400 dollars to paint you hood . when you could get it painted at a regular body shop for 300 to 500 with the kind of job most people would be happy with . a cheaper shop will opt to refinish the fenders this is ok but just ok . its fine for the every day driver but not top end ! doing a blend with the color is ez and then you just clear the hole panel . you can't see a blend in the color if its doen right . the texture (peal) even a sprayer should beable to match that . as for HVLP and LOW VOC's its not new !! its has been mandatory for the past 16 years now in the body repair shop . then it comes to the home sprayer and HVLP guns . you have to replace all air lines and cuplers to HVLP also . right from the air tank to your gun . if your trying to paint with a standard hose and or cuplers then you will find that your paint work wants to come out to dry or you run the thing . thats becouse you need to spray with a High Volume of air . its like your thomb over the end of a water hose . with a Low Pressure at the fluid tip and air cap . if your still getting to much peal in you paint . then drop the needle and fluid tip down in size . to say ? if your air tips are a 1.5 to a 1.6 them drop it down to a 1.3 or at most a 1.4 tip . this will atomize the paint to smaller drops and give you less peal . alot of states are changing over to water born base colors . CA. and CT are the first to have to change its not hard to spray about the same as solvent based colors . you just need air to flash off the base not heat . this will make it harder for the home sprayer to do there own work .

[efhughes3]

Uhhh, did I miss something here?

If you say so.....