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RoninLB 07-15-2009 01:57 PM

what is everyones opinion of the Wevo coupler?



any no-slop coupling is nice and precise


seems the coupler gets expensive the farther up you go up in design

maybe kinda like paying for sprinkles on your ice cream?

Carrerax 07-15-2009 04:18 PM

Cool. I like sprinkles :) I just want to get it the best that I car from the start.

Jgordon 07-15-2009 04:23 PM

I'd think most people are correct. Here's what I've picked up so far.
- tighter couplings will increase wear and feel
- looser couplings will reduce wear and feel
- the reason the coupler is loose is the same reason they tell you not to rest your hand on the stick when you're not shifting; more resistance to the natural movement and vibration = greater wear on the components

I'd suspect that the reason aftermarket couplings are round/tight is because they're being marketed to an enthusiast audience, who would rather have a "racey" feel and are accustomed to either working on the car themselves or having parts wear out, and are willing to make that tradeoff. Most people who own these cars and are not what we'd call an "enthusiast" would likely have the dealer replace it with a stock part. Hence no need for aftermarket parts that replicate stock.

So, I guess it's what you want. Longevity and looser shifting or tighter shifting and more wear on the components. Your original bushing looks fine to me.

RoninLB 07-15-2009 07:29 PM

hey... it's different strokes

I went with wevo sprinkles because I didn't have the time or brains to modify to my licking



the precision means that it's easier to bully your way through a 915.. whoops

it also means you might have the rhythm to shift a 915 like it's supposed to with confidence



and not need to modify stock if it's good enough

gulkster 07-15-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray_G (Post 4778837)
I guess that I am going to ask you to send me your red ones once you get them out. I want them. I replaced mine with the ones you have in the photo from Pelican. My shifter was so stiff that I removed the coupler and made the holes bigger to get the thing to shift better. If I had to do it all over the cup in the bottom of the shifter would be all that I would replace. I know, I am most likely off my rocker, but those round ones made my 911 shift very hard.

Did you adjust your coupler well after you changed the bushings? If you left it at your markings, it may be way off. Just a thought...

john walker's workshop 07-16-2009 05:19 AM

i just ordered 6 sets of the black ones with the round hole from pelican. never had a problem with them. the shifter is much more precice, as long as the coupler is adjusted properly. it's a 98% improvement over the slotted ones and with the wevo, you might get the remaining 2%, so there ain't much difference.

GaryR 07-16-2009 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john walker's workshop (Post 4779946)
i just ordered 6 sets of the black ones with the round hole from pelican. never had a problem with them. the shifter is much more precice, as long as the coupler is adjusted properly. it's a 98% improvement over the slotted ones and with the wevo, you might get the remaining 2%, so there ain't much difference.

That's what I plan on using in my "road" car john, thanks for the confirmation.
:)

carrera turbo 07-17-2009 12:32 AM

as soon as i find a car with the slotted bushings i take them out and replace with the black ones as well. with some fine tunning you can make a 915 shift very well.

cheers ed

Deschodt 07-17-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray_G (Post 4778837)
I guess that I am going to ask you to send me your red ones once you get them out. I want them.


Ironically, the friend who helped me press the new bushings in (round ones) had a spare coupler with new Red bushings - identical to mine. They are not worn, the slop is designed into them....

That said, the issue between black round bushings vs. the red oval ones has not yet been decided... In terms of shifter feel, black wins for sure...as expected. In terms of transmitting less vibrations thanks to built in slop, it's a draw in my book. On smooth road it's the same, on bumps I have a hard time measuring the amplitude of my shifter's vibration while driving straight ;-) Seat of the pants: it's about the same, maybe a tiny bit worse... Of course I have no X-ray vision to determine if the black ones are worse for my tranny... So that bit is done... Next I will install a new early 911 style tranny brace with fresh mounts. I betcha that is my main problem, that old tranny just moves around too much !

slw911SC 07-17-2009 03:23 PM

What do you think of my shift coupler bushings is a question I ask all the girls!:eek:;):p

Liam O 07-17-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carrerax (Post 4778760)
what is everyones opinion of the Wevo coupler? I want to make my car shift as good as possible w/o using a Wevo SS because it still needs to shift easily for my wife. Is the wevo coupler worth it or should I just make brass bushings similar to the plastic ones (PP is out and doesnt expect more for a long time).

I changed the cup and the shift rod bushing.I also had to get the tip of the shift rod welded as it had come loose. Done these repairs in stages so I could get a feel for what was making the biggest significant improvement before I bought the wevo coupler.I do think that after the other repairs the wevo was well worth the money.
car was a total nightmare to drive before this.Could never relax when drivin it before.
On a side note I was driving in 5th gear recently forgot I had my hand on the shifter and it jumped out of gear, I wouldnt say I was putting a lot of pressure on it, but it gets you thinking maybe a certain amount of slack is required.
That said difference in car is night and day.

JFairman 07-17-2009 03:42 PM

made my own bushings from AC hose
 
Cut 2-5/8 long pieces of left over barrier hose from my AC install, lubed them with silicone grease, installed them and they're tight as can be.
There is no free play with these bushings and the shifting feels good.

I replaced and greased the two shifter bushings too.

Makes the Weltmeister short shifter and old 4speed 930 gearbox alot better.
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Green 912 07-18-2009 04:14 PM

Better put a band clamp around the yoke right over the bushings and pin. There is nothing but friction keeping them in and they can extrude out. The clamp works well to keep the bushings in and does not hit the pin or inhibit the shifter.


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