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Help i goofed up the shifter coupler install

I bought a replacement from another user on this board so it was supposed to be unbolt the old one and install the new one. I marked the old one with paint on both ends top and side. Marked the new one with paint as close as I can get it to the old part. No luck.

I started off in 3rd gear position and after the install 1st gear is 3rd gear and reverse is no where to be found. I put it together and took it apart for 3 and a half hours and I'm either in lining up 1st okay, reverse is okay but 3rd and 4th are not there or I'm getting 3rd in the first position and no reverse.

I tried a little left or a little right and cant get it to hit all 5 gears and reverse. Is there a procedure I can follow to make this work....HELP, I'm frustrated.

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http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_shifting_improvements/911_shifting_improvements.htm

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Since you marked the old one while it was still on, try putting it back on and see if you can hit the gears again. If so then follow the instructions on the link provided by 'The Puff'. Otherwise, chances are you will have to make small changes until you get it just right, which can be frustrating. If you haven't done so do it while sitting in the driver's seat, you'll have a better feel for where the shifter should be when in third, which is the gear you currently have it in.
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I installed a Hargett shifter with new coupler about a year ago. I put the shifter into neutral then, with the rod that goes from the shifter to the coupler detached, went through the gears buy hand. IE: Held onto the coupler with my hand and shifter through the gears. When I found the neutral spot between 3rd and 4th, I put the rod back into the coupler and tightened down the two screws (yours may be a bit different). With everything hooked up I tested it with the shifter, took about two attempts to get it perfect, then put the lock tight on one screw at a time at the coupler. Works great and has never come loose at the track.

Sorry if I'm answering the wrong question here but let me know if you need a picture or two of what I'm describing.

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just keep fiddling with it - I would not bother to put the old one back on; just keep adjusting the new one.
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Here is the adjustment procedure. Came off the old PorscheFans board.

Shift Linkage - Adjustment

1. Remove the cover plate on the tunnel, behind the front seats.
2. Place gearshift in neutral.
3. Loosen the shift rod clamp. Turn the shift rod (by grasping the
coupler) to the right, as seen in the direction of driving.
4. Move gearshift lever to the left until it touches the stop, and
move it fore-and-aft until the lower section is vertical when viewed from the side (the
fore-and-aft adjustment can be modified
to suit the driver, provided sufficient length of the shifter rod remains inside the clamp).
5. Lightly tighten the clamp.
6. Check if equally long travel is evident in gears 1-4, and that 5th
and reverse can be easily engaged. Correct as necessary.
7. Tighten the clamp securely.
8. Shift into 5th gear, and check the shift rod for rotational play.
A definite (slight) amount of play must be evident.

This is also a good time to inspect the shift coupler bushings. Be aware that some
fore-and-aft play in the coupler bushings is required.

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It worked but...

2nd gear is still not a slide in. The old coupler's bushings were all cracked and broken on both sides. One would think that changing it would make it like night and day shifting through the gears.
Maybe its just inherent of a 915 transmission to be the way it is, I'm not sure. I have to rev at 3200 or higher in 1st and throw really quickly to go into 2nd without to much effort. If I'm under 3K RPM's, 1st to 2nd still requires effort to feel it click in, 2nd to 3rd is smooth as well as 4th, 5th and reverse, I'm puzzled?
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define slide in...
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It sounds like it's still off. . .you may have to push the shifter in neutral closer to the driver's side and tighten it up, slightly differing from Mr. Tindel's post, above. At least that's what I had to do. Be aggressive at first, but then keep moving it back towards the middle (move, tighten, check. . . move, tighten, check) until it works. Sounds like you are pretty close. PITA, yes, but you'll get it there. Have faith!

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The shifter is all the way left to the drivers side. The coupler is all the way right to the passenger side. I've moved it a half a dozen times up and down in small increments doesn't make 2nd any easier just makes reverse harder to get in.
All gears including reverse slide in with a light touch except 2nd gear, I'm puzzled why but have decided to quit while I'm ahead. Its better but as I mentioned above nothing like I anticipated.
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Remember that 2nd gear in a 915 is usually the first one to go. Don't move it into gear too quickly. I read on here that you want to use a consistent, and deliberate, movement that takes about 1 second to finish.
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if you - and a friend - started from neutral and twisted them both hard at the same time...

then it may be gearbox rebuild time...


or loosen the thing - put the box in 2nd and put the shifter in 2nd

then wiggle everything - then tighten - test again
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what Webb said. your problem didn't start until after the bushing refresh, right? that hints that there may still be life in 2nd - at least for a while yet.

And IIRC, the coupler that you tighten, can just spin when it is loose, so the positioning all the way to the right means nothing, only that you've twisted it to the right as far as you can get it. Or maybe I'm not clear on this?

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