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G50 01-08-2012 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by indigowhale (Post 4811164)
Is this the sticker that you refer to?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1249129400.jpg

No, that's not the sticker the California DMV will look for.

They will look for the sticker that specifically says the car is "California" legal.

This is from an Audi, but the Porsche sticker will look pretty much the same, and will have the same "legal in California" language.

All US legal '90 911s would have come from the factory with this sticker, it should still be there.

http://andywong.seto.cc/1997_993_C2S...ns_Sticker.jpg

zippy_gg 01-08-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy_gg View Post
That is absolutely not true. The only caveat is that the transaction must be between private parties with no dealer involved.
Just last week I completed the registration of my 86 cab from MD to CA.
All transaction done at the AAA, and of course at the smog station.
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Originally Posted by eastbay (Post 6480778)
hmmm if that worked for you great. Was both buyer and seller AAA members? I just wonder because AAA told me to get f00ked since my buyer was not a AAA member and I had bring the buyer to the DMV.

I brought in two post 75 cars in 2000 and the process was smog, then DMV VIN inspection and the DMV did look for smog equipment at the DMV station. Was easy, but both non p-cars were in compliance.

Things may have changed since

Adding a CA compliance exhaust should be rather simple, they are for sale on CL all the time for reasonable amounts.

I have no idea if my seller was a AAA member or not, and the local AAA office in CA never asked me that question. Vehicle transfer is one of the services they offer to their members, me in that case, and the transaction was very easy. The lady came out to see my car, check the VIN, engine number, etc... and we went inside to complete the paperwork. My car got smogged immediately afterward and I came back to the AAA office to get my license plates and registration (I had bought insurance already).

winders 01-08-2012 10:13 AM

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Look here:

How To Register A Vehicle from Out-of-State (Nonresident Vehicle)

If the car has more than 7,500 miles, it does not have to be CA emission legal. 49 state cars are fine. Finally, the vehicle only has to be pass smog for the emission standards for which it was manufactured. In other words, a 49 state car legally registered in CA does not have to meet CA emission standards. It does have to meet 49 state emission standards for the year it was manufactured.

Scott

zippy_gg 01-08-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by G50 (Post 6480817)
No, that's not the sticker the California DMV will look for.

They will look for the sticker that specifically says the car is "California" legal.

This is from an Audi, but the Porsche sticker will look pretty much the same, and will have the same "legal in California" language.

All US legal '90 911s would have come from the factory with this sticker, it should still be there.

http://andywong.seto.cc/1997_993_C2S...ns_Sticker.jpg

Here are the tags I found on my car.
The first is same so previously posted. Then VIN tag is what the DMV or AAA will be looking for.
My apologies to Indigowhale as I never saw his question on this old thread and therefore never responded.:(
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1326051709.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1326051740.jpg

Staylo 01-08-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by winders (Post 6480850)
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Look here:

How To Register A Vehicle from Out-of-State (Nonresident Vehicle)

If the car has more than 7,500 miles, it does not have to be CA emission legal. 49 state cars are fine. Finally, the vehicle only has to be pass smog for the emission standards for which it was manufactured. In other words, a 49 state car legally registered in CA does not have to meet CA emission standards. It does have to meet 49 state emission standards for the year it was manufactured.

Scott

Yes, there is a lot of misinformation in this thread, and you are contributing to it. What you wrote in your post is completely false.
Check your link to the CA DMV again, and this time do not overlook this paragraph:

NOTE:California law prohibits California residents or businesses from importing and/or registering a new vehicle with less than 7,500 miles at the time of purchase unless it meets or is exempt from California emission standards. If you acquire a 49-State vehicle (manufactured for all states except California) from another state or country, you may not be able to register your vehicle in California.

The language regarding new vehicles with less than 7500 miles was in relation to the fact that people were trying to purchase diesels from out of state that were not available to CA. That is changing, as newer diesels are now becoming CA. compliant from the factory. And then there was the fad of buying cars in OR or other no tax states to avoid high CA. sales taxes.
Anyone considering importing a car to CA. from ANYWHERE should carefully study the requirements detailed by the CA. DMV first.

Joe Bob 01-08-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 6480850)
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Look here:

How To Register A Vehicle from Out-of-State (Nonresident Vehicle)

If the car has more than 7,500 miles, it does not have to be CA emission legal. 49 state cars are fine. Finally, the vehicle only has to be pass smog for the emission standards for which it was manufactured. In other words, a 49 state car legally registered in CA does not have to meet CA emission standards. It does have to meet 49 state emission standards for the year it was manufactured.

Scott

Scott we have a hijacked thread....the OP was coming in from VA to CA.

The next guy from Sweden....while it was originally a US vehicle he mentions that the exhaust has been changed. No mention if it still has a cat or not.

The visual in CA which proceeds the actual testing requires oem intake and exhaust.

The 7500 thing is two fold......sales taxes and "used" status. CA was sued for imposing extra 'smog fees' on out of state vehicles even if they were over 7500 miles and US but not CA compliant.

winders 01-08-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Staylo (Post 6480925)
Yes, there is a lot of misinformation in this thread, and you are contributing to it. What you wrote in your post is completely false.
Check your link to the CA DMV again, and this time do not overlook this paragraph:

NOTE:California law prohibits California residents or businesses from importing and/or registering a new vehicle with less than 7,500 miles at the time of purchase unless it meets or is exempt from California emission standards. If you acquire a 49-State vehicle (manufactured for all states except California) from another state or country, you may not be able to register your vehicle in California.

The language regarding new vehicles with less than 7500 miles was in relation to the fact that people were trying to purchase diesels from out of state that were not available to CA. That is changing, as newer diesels are now becoming CA. compliant from the factory. And then there was the fad of buying cars in OR or other no tax states to avoid high CA. sales taxes.
Anyone considering importing a car to CA. from ANYWHERE should carefully study the requirements detailed by the CA. DMV first.

Staylo,

You are wrong. I was having to deal with this 7500 mile rule 13 years ago well before the diesel truck issues of last few years.

When CA DMV says "new" in that text, they mean "new to you". You never could import an actual brand new 49 state vehicle and register it. Anything with 7500 miles is "used" anyway.

Scott

Staylo 01-08-2012 11:31 AM

"If the car has more than 7,500 miles, it does not have to be CA emission legal. 49 state cars are fine. Finally, the vehicle only has to be pass smog for the emission standards for which it was manufactured. In other words, a 49 state car legally registered in CA does not have to meet CA emission standards. It does have to meet 49 state emission standards for the year it was manufactured."

That is simply not true, and the link you posted confirms it.

RWebb 01-08-2012 11:32 AM

Doesn't it depend on _where_ in Calif. it will be? e.g. say you reside in Hilt vs. LA or something?

Quicksilver 01-08-2012 11:48 AM

It is a well known fact that CARB is lowering the allowed emissions on older vehicles. Search on the threads about 80s Carreras failing smog.

Sure the law clearly says that a car only needs to pass the emissions that were set when the car was originally delivered but CARB is ignoring it. The only way you can do anything about it is to fail the smog and take it in front of a judge. People aren't doing that though. They are having work done on the car and getting them retested.

Joe Bob 01-08-2012 11:51 AM

The 3.2s.....yes there is an issue on stricter than original emissions.....but....the question is.....visual at this point. Modified exhaust.

Chino 01-08-2012 12:17 PM

You might want to contact an Independant shop in CA, where you live. If you car is stock, an independant shop will probably be able to sell you the necessary equipment or tell you what you need. They probably have a smog shop they use. They will probably pretest the vehicle, before running the actual test, to make sure it passes. I know there are lots of out of state Porsche's in CA. During the Tech boom, cars were coming in from everywhere. In the 90's I purchased an H1 from Kentucky. I made an appointment at DMV, for a VIN verification. You just drive you car in line and a guy with a clip board verifies the VIN. I didn't have to bother with smog, since it was a diesel.

H-viken 01-09-2012 11:22 AM

Sorry if I was unclear, but mine is a Euro model (originally delivered in Germany).


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