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Used oil?

OOOHHH,
This will cause some pause for concern. used oil vs new oil, the debate continues!
https://shop.sae.org/technical/papers/2007-01-4133
More:
https://shop.sae.org/technical/papers/2006-01-1099
I only read the abstracts, but they were interesting!
eric

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Here's the abstract, note the disclaimer at the end "These findings could be an enabler for achieving longer drain interval although several other factors must to be considered."

Abstract:
Engine oils are subjected to a series of industry standard engine dynamometer tests to measure their wear protection capability, sludge and varnish formation tendencies, and fuel efficiency among several other performance attributes before they are approved for use in customer engines. However, these performance attributes are measured at the end of tests and therefore, do not provide any information on how the properties have changed during the tests. In one of our previous studies it was observed that engine oil samples collected from fleet vehicles after 12,000 mile drain interval showed 10-15% lower friction and more importantly, an order of magnitude lower wear rate than those of fresh oils. It was also observed that the composition of the tribochemical films formed was quite different on the surface tested with the drain oils from those formed with fresh oils. The objective of this investigation is to demonstrate how the friction and wear performance changed with oil drain intervals. A fleet of three vehicles was run in Las Vegas and oil samples were collected at various drain intervals from 3,000 miles to 15,000 miles. As in the previous study, the results showed that the aged engine oils provide lower friction and much improved wear protection capability. These improvements were observed as early as the 3,000 mile drain interval and continued to the 15,000 mile drain interval. The composition of tribochemical films formed on the surface with the 3,000 mile drain interval is similar to that formed with the 12,000 mile drain interval as seen before. These findings could be an enabler for achieving longer drain interval although several other factors must to be considered.

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More fuel for the fire:
http://www.lnengineering.com/oiltesting.html
eric
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Eleanor Roosevelt, 1936
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UhOh,
More oil stuff:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
Be prepared to burn tons of time!
eric

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