Any one done a HID Xenon Conversion??
 

Any one done a HID Xenon Conversion on thier 911??

If so, the usually questions what is the best one and how much etc...

their is a kit on ebay PORSCHE 911, 964 71-98 HID Xenon Conversion KIT lights - eBay Bulbs Lenses, Lights Lighting Accessories, Car Tuning Styling, Vehicle Parts Accessories. (end time 09-Nov-09 01:29:29 AEDST)

Most kits just give you low beams no high, check your local laws about that. There are some bi-filament lamps out there and there are motor operated units like the stock ones but way expensive. H-4's are the way to go.

Just checked out the ebay site. yes they are bi-fillament. that should work and look cool also!

i would not buy that kit on ebay. just putting in a hid system is pointless unless you have the proper housings. without projectors you will just be blinding everyone on the road at night.

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If you're just going for "the look", just buy some blue H4s. And they'll give you better lighting to actually see down the road.

I think that kit comes with the housing

The arc light source in an HID headlamp is fundamentally different in size, shape, orientation, and luminosity distribution compared to the filament light source used in halogen headlamps. For that reason, HID-specific optics are used to collect and distribute the light. HID bulbs cannot effectively or safely be installed in optics designed to take filament bulbs; doing so results in improperly-focused beam patterns and excessive glare, and is therefore illegal in almost all countries.

What he ^ said! Don't buy this kit. It will serve to reinforce the publics opinion that Porsche owners are selfish idiots. Really, the kit is junk.

trust me they do not. A quality hid housing can run well over $200 alone, and that is not even the entire headlight assembly.

What they said...and I'll add that an acquaintance has a set on an SC that the PO had intalled. Neither he or the prior owner (I haven't seen the car) where able to find the wiring short that must have occurred during installation, battery is drained everytime he wants to use the car. He says it gets old charging the battery everytime he wants to use the car....keep it simple and use the H4's.

I tried a set of HIDs in an old Audi I had. It was terrible. Yes, the quantity of light was greater, but the beam pattern was horrible, and blinded oncoming traffic. I took it out pretty soon after I installed it. I am seeing more and more of these conversion on the road, and every time I see them I cringe. They "dazzle" and you can see them from a mile away, blinding traffic on the way.

Unless you're going to use projectors, or a housing that is designed for HID's, I wouldn't do it.

I have a set of ****** ones from Europe with the high and low beam installed in my H4s the beam is great though I still over drive them, (my car gets to sixty in a hurry and 150mph comes up really fast in 4th gear) H4s with 80/100 low/high is definitely far more annoying to oncoming drivers. For what it is worth, I paid around $500 for the kit from Imagine Auto at the time Stephen got it, plus installation with a shielded wiring harness and heat shruk connections. I would do it again and I consider it to be a great mod for car as low as mine with lowered seat rails to fit my 6'2" frame with a helmet.

Further, there are threads here where people have done legitimate conversions. I put a set of Audi bi xenon projectors in with lenses from the early bugs in my early 911. It's awesome. Super sharp cutoff, great light temperature, awesome visibility, much less power drain. It eliminates the need to redo the switch/relays thing.
That said, there was some less than plug and play fabrication involved.

If you're going to go HID, do it right.

Now that's doing it right! Any pictures of that conversion?

I did on my 96 993 and posted a pretty comprehensive how-to install on Rennlist about 5 years ago. I dont know if they will fit your headlights though. There are a few threads here on different approaches. Some people have transplanted Mini Cooper headlights.

Here is some more info on the HID conversion

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/272171-hid-xenon-911-initial-pics-3.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1232472368.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1250859063.jpg


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http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....singer_630.jpg

I really like the headlamp on the second car above.

I have upgraded the halogen headlight to HID on my last 3 motorcycles without ill effect, except for the greatly improved lighting. None of the bike had a projector, but the capsules were mounted correctly, meaning the light source was in the same exact spot as the halogen they replaced, so there was no bleeding or blinding of oncoming traffic.
After taking my 86 cab to Mulholland after dark... Oh crap! I can't see where I am going!!! So HID is in the future for my car.

All OE Xenon headlight cars I've seen adjust by suspension travel to reduce blinding other drivers. Just say'n.

In Europe, it is MANDATORY to have auto headlight adjusters to avoid glare for oncoming drivers.

I had a Volvo V70R. It had the stupidest Xenons ever. The reflector pivoted for the high beams. It was great for looking in second story windows, but not much else.

My Ruf 3600S Xenons don't move with the suspension; nor do my Prius'.

For my wife's '86 944, I bought H4s and then installed these DDM 35W & 55W Slim Ballast HID Kit: DDM Tuning - HID Kits, HID Bulbs, DEPO Lighting, BMW and Porsche Performance Accessories

It works really well and doesn't blind people. Maybe I'm just lucky.

This is a requirement for ROW cars, but not for American ones. Our Ford Flex has xenons that don't self adjust. My Carrera does.

No ill effect to you, but how do the people coming towards you on that dark road feel as they are blinded coming around a corner?

Just because the capsule is in the same place as the bulb it replaced doesn't mean the light is emitted in the same way as it was with the halogen filament. Here's a good explanation as to why: Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

If you are after 'the look' of xeons (mostly seen aftermarket on Civics and Accurasm versus vintage p-cars) rather than the performance of upgraded bulbs and wiring, then go with them. If you are after xeon appearing Hella bulbs with some good punch 80/100W, check out these, but you will need to upgrade your wiring/relays/etc - Optilux XP Xenon Bulbs H4 80/100W At least if you go with the Hella look like bulbs, you will get a good quality bulb with great lighting and you won't blind and annoy every oncoming driver - including the officer who will eventually provide you with a 'fix-it' ticket - and then you lose your entire investment. - I was not happy with 55/60 watt bulbs and upgraded everything to accommodate Hella 100/140 W. The sharp cut-offs don't blind oncoming drivers, and they throw more than enough light - add some driving lights if you need even more.

Just buy a Singer 911 and be done with it ;):p:D

Cheap!
 

Just had a look at the E Bay add and at GBP 79.00 they're cheap.

A few years ago they were more like GBP 300.00...

I've seen them on a local 964. The owner tells me they're great but I haven't driven that car.
I know some people have chimed in with all of the reasons not to do this but this is becoming common on a lot of cars locally.
The Police don't like bluish lights so most locals go with the whiter (lower intensity) version and seem to get by just fine.

Just for the record... I find it annoying when an on coming BMW, Mercedes or whatever has HID lights.
Even though these are OEM they're still annoying to me.
Now I know how drivers felt in the 70s when Halogen lights were first introduced.

The whiter ones actually output more light, according to the tech specs given by most sellers. I imagine the cops give a pass on the whiter ones not because they put out less light, but because the blue ones are so easy to spot as illegal.

I've seen plenty of thes and they annoy me in white or blue or purple or....

On mine, I adjusted the height when the tank was empty, with just me in the car, so the cutoff wouldn't annoy oncoming traffic. Empty tank and only me is the worse case scenario for the cars attitude.

Speedracerindy, sorry I missed your request for pics. I like the ones done by Singer.

On mine, i just got the 911 back in my shop so I will be dorking with things. Functionally, they rock. I want to improve the cosmetics.

here's some pics, (BTW, I heard you did a gauge lighting project with EL wire, can you link that thread? Thanks()

On, obviously
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263026176.jpg
Drivers side 'raw", no interior reflector/cosmetics. I went with the HID projector above a set of fogs to fill the vast area that was available. Further, the flens on the pass side has been given an obscuring frost.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263026240.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263026529.jpg

two more.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263026918.jpg
lit, in daylight
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1263026990.jpg

Can you give detail comparison between your wife's HID vs it's stock H4. And the wife's HID vs the real stock HID?

What did you use on the right headlight ? It looks like you have a shroud in it.

I love the light I have now on my 71.

Cheers

You installed bi-xenon headlights in your 911. Can you tell me what year and model Audi supplied those headlights?

Thanks, Mark

Not HID, but I installed these LEDs in mine (H4 housings) and so far I'm very happy with them.

3800 Lumen H4 LED Headlight bulb

I've gone through the effort of having my wife and a couple of other family members evaluate them as she drives in the opposite direction of me in the 911 and none thought they were obnoxious.