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Question 928, whats the best year?

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Always liked the look of the 928 and wanted some opinions on what are the best years and what are the problems with various years, I read that some of the early years had clutch problems. Any experts out there with some opinions. Thanks
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That would have to be '82
I purchased my 928 from the original owner in 1998
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The 928 improved continuously from 78 to 95. The later the year, the fewer problems you are likely to have. Buy a GTS if you can afford it (92-95).

The 928 V8 is a fantastic, trouble-free engine. Most problems with 928s are caused by a ridiculously complicated electrical system. Troubleshooting and fixing these issues are either very difficult and time consuming if you DIY, or very expensive if you have a shop do the work. In fact, many shops will refuse to work on 928s. Before you buy one, make sure you have a trustworthy shop nearby that will work on it unless you're a mechanic yourself.

A 928 that has been treated well and not hot-rodded or messed with is generally a very reliable Porsche. Problem is, there are VERY few 928s out there that fit into that category. Thus, they have a reputation for being troublesome. I owned a 86.5 928S that was perfect and nothing ever broke on it, at least while I owned it.

The 928 is also not widely loved, and so they're cheap to buy. The cheap price attracts a lot of guys who think it's a cheap way to get into a high end car, but they don't have enough money (or knowledge) to maintain them properly, and so they deteriorate and the reputation of unreliability is solidified. Those are the ones to avoid. That's about 90% of them.

BTW, the best 928 forum is over on Rennlist. That forum is almost as active as the Pelican 911 forum. That's where you need to hang out and ask questions.
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the best year is an 85.5, it is basically and S with all the series 4 goodies on it - the best HP and bang for your buck
if you want a collectible get an unmolested 77
If you want teh absolute best get a manual GTS but be prepared to spend big money buying and maintaining this flagship of the 928 run - 928 has loads of infor on teh web - try 928international.com and our host has some great info
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the best year is an 85.5, it is basically and S with all the series 4 goodies on it - the best HP and bang for your buck
if you want a collectible get an unmolested 77
If you want teh absolute best get a manual GTS but be prepared to spend big money buying and maintaining this flagship of the 928 run - 928 has loads of infor on teh web - try 928international.com and our host has some great info
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That would be an 86.5 with the S4 engine brakes and suspension. They are my favorite, and respond very well to a rechip.

We have a good 928 forum here, but the best is over on Rennlist.

I still have an 85 manual with a euro ring and pinion and some other mods. I take it to car shows and track days.
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911quest makes a good point. Many aircooled guys do not like to work on 928s, don't understand them, and won't do a good job on them.

No foolin.

They are radically different from 911s, and you need a 928 mechanic, and to post on a 928 board for advice and information. Don't assume that a porsche guy is a 928 guy. I mean everybody knows that aircooleds are the only real Porsches, right ?

BTW, whatever they say about a PPI for a 911, it is even more important not to get rolled on a 928. They say that there are 928s in heaven.


BUT... They are also in hell.
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Daniel yes right 86.5 finger problem, I have a carrara3.0 and a 928 and I find the 928 a breeze to work on - no worse than the 911 anyway
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If you can find one I would go for an '85 Euro S 5spd. 4.7l and 310hp is entertaining. Half as many valves to worry about damaging compared to an S4 or a US 85/86 model and typically less luxury items than the US models so a little lighter too. I spent 8 years reading the Rennlist digest everyday learning about so many problems with systems that don't even exist on the pre-85 16 valve cars. No MAF to go bad, no LH brain to fail, no front motorized front cooling fins, no rear AC, no variable diff (PSD), no ABS, no airbags, no knock sensors, no flappy in the intake manifold, simpler timing belt, simpler cooling fan setup, the list goes on. During that time I drove my car every day and had it fail to start once - fuel pump relay failed (had a new one purchased but had not installed it). Not bad for a 20 year old car. I think all of the 928 models were great cars (and on an infinite budget would love to drive a GTS every day) but they got progressively more complicated each year and many owners were not car enthusiasts and therefore failed to fix the little items that broke along the way. Making a poor condition 928 into a good one is shear masochism IMO. Taking an average one to good condition is achievable but expensive. Take your time and find a good one to start with. Many say buy the latest one you can afford. I would suggest buying the one in the best condition that you can afford.
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Thanks guys, all advise taken, just lookin at this point in time
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This question can only be answered by "How much are you willing to spend?"

I have seen early '80s automatic cars for <$3,000
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Early to Mid '90s pushing $40,000

Early US 80s with an automatic is slower than a Toyota Corolla to 60mp/h no joke. Terrible to drive and they make alot of noise at widen open throttle but go no where. Early US Auto 32V cars are slower than a Miata to 60mp/h. Hence the suggestion to get a 5speed 32V post 1987.

My choice is a a low mileage 5speed 32V car and really an S4, as they look modern, and have more quirks sorted than the earlier cars + you may end up finding one well pampered.

Plan on $15K

I would like to own a GT ot GTS but do not have the funds.

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I have a '91 GT and love it. Had an '86 5 speed for 2 years some ten years ago and loved that one too, although I wrestled with maintenance issues because it turned out not to be as nice as I thought it was. This time, I paid a premium for a nice, well maintained car with good maintenance history.

Concur that the Rennlist 928 forum is your best source.

IMO, your decision needs to start with whether you want an early body style (928/928S) or late (S4/GT/GTS) bodystyle. Your budget may effect this choice. Then choose between 5 spd or auto, then go from there. Be patient, know where to look, get a PPI by someone who knows what they're looking for, and you'll find the right one.

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