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Bear911 01-19-2010 08:20 AM

69-73 turn signal box schematic
 
Dear Pelicans

I have started down the slippery slope of trying to "re-date" a long hood. I have managed to find most of the bits and pieces, but the one part that will make this project a go/ no-go is the turn signal boxes.

I live in the sticks and shipping fenders (even second hand ones) are proving prohibitively expensive. I know it is a long shot, but does anyone have schematic drawings of a 69-73 turn signal box (the actual metal brackets, not the housing..which I have.) I would like to fabricate new ones that can be welded back to the original fenders. The car will not be a concourse car, so it doesn't have to be authentic, just something that will work. In fact, it will stay a bastard, but just a bit closer to its roots.

I really want to put metal boxes back on the fenders and not go the fibre route. Also, I'm not too concerned about the dimensions etc of the lip at the wheel arch, just the actual mounting brackets for the turn signals and horn grills.

Any help/advice will be appreciated!

Bear911 01-19-2010 09:55 AM

I guess what I'm looking for is a diy way of getting this...

Pelican Parts - Product Information: OEM-90150304423

Jagshund 01-19-2010 10:05 AM

My '65-'71 schematics don't appear to be broken down that far. I will look again this evening, though.

Willem Fick 01-19-2010 10:08 AM

I live in the same part of the world as you, and feel your pain!

Sounds like an interesting idea, so why don't you give me a shout - you can use mine for measurements if you want, and I can help you with the CAD work as well.

Cheers,

Willem

Bear911 01-19-2010 11:12 AM

Thanks Scott, any info is much appreciated.

Willem, thank you. Will take you up on your offer (will send pm.) Don't think it will hurt to at least try. I see the 65-68 box (part 901-503-038-22) is a rather complicated piece of sheet metal design, where as the 69-73 box (part 901-503-031-23) looks a lot less challenging to recreate.

Maybe I should find some second hand fenders on fleabay and get the seller to chop of the front end before shipping :D

Jagshund 01-19-2010 02:36 PM

If we can't find an answer, just stalk someone with a concours-quality car and dismantle the front end while they're enjoying a meal out.

Bear911 01-19-2010 08:35 PM

Hahahaha! Which one is faster...cutting torch or angle grinder? ( I need an evil smiley inserted here)

Bear911 04-01-2012 01:22 PM

Thought I'd better give this short thread I started in 2010 an ending, just in case someone else is thinking of doing something similar. Also,I hate threads with loose ends!

I started with a 69 that had been 'updated.' As mentioned above, I couldn't get second hand brackets so I decided to try fabricate my own. The before shot...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333312359.jpg


Stripping it down revealed that the original latch panel was still on the car, just repositioned. We were able to repair the hack job at the same time as the rusty suspension pan. Luckily for us, the 'offending customizer' had also left the inner edges of the turn signal box, which proved to be a great reference point with which to start fabricating.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333313018.jpg


First, I made up a cardboard mock-up to get the dimensions right.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333313298.jpg


I converted the cardboard to CAD with the help of my brother and had a local company cut the required shape out of steel with a CNC plasma cutter.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333313495.jpg


Then I hammered in the required edges.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333314097.jpg

Taping the turn signal assembly and horn grill into the correct position, I 'reverse engineered' the bracket. I used screws initially to keep it in position and then welded it later when everything was sorted.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333314399.jpg


So that it ended up like this (The rear lip was inserted later when we re-did the wheel arches)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333314712.jpg


The end result...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1333314936.jpg

Grady Clay 04-01-2012 01:39 PM

Björn,

Great recovery from a ‘bumper change’, particularly you being in SA, not LA. :D
Congratulations.
More pictures please.

Best,
Grady

Bear911 04-02-2012 04:39 AM

Thanks Grady! Help is fortunately never further than a PC away :-)

There are a few more pics of the car on the RSR replica and white p-car threads, but will try to add a few more later.

Cheers

Tareq993 11-24-2012 09:12 AM

Hi, guess its an old thread, but worth a shot.
You wouldnt happen a cad drawing of those parts that you would like to share :)
Im located in Bahrain and backdating an SC. No parts available here and old bits cost a fortune.

Hows SA these days.. My wife is from CapeTown!

Cheers
Tareq

jakz 12-01-2014 02:36 PM

another try at reviving the old thread, anyone has drawings for this?

Elombard 12-01-2014 05:05 PM

can you actually buy those repair pieces he shows in the first slide? I have to look into that

Tareq993 12-01-2014 08:19 PM

You can purchase the parts from the Porsche dealer
Left side 901.503.043.23
Right side 901.503.044.23

Bear911 was kind enough to send me the cad drawings of the parts he fabricated but in the end we used the porsche parts and fabricated the sheet metal extension for the fenders behind the turnsignal lights.


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