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You need to have the stock components to pass visual in CA.
Caveat here is that MOSTLY none of the current smog techs would know the difference between the stock setup and the modified SSI setup, hence it passess visual. I have been thinking of this setup for years, but was not willing to gamble the thousands on SSi's and 2 different exhaust setups... 1000's of dollars on a gamble. I currently have a factory testpipe on the factory setup so switching out the "custom" cat converter setup on the SSi's is a no brainer every other year... super easy. I was waiting for someone to post something on this to give me the balls to try. Are SSI's still on backorder? |
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I rest my case.
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Your case simply doesnt represent all of CA. Find a dumb/lazy smog tech and you're good to go! :)
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Can anyone verify that cars pre-96 in Illinois don't need to pass emmissions??? I was told any car newer than 1985 will have to pass. My friend has an 87 308, and he also had to pass emmisions a year or two ago. Was this recently changed???
In Wisconsin, older cars aren't tested at all.... |
I have smogged my 911 cars since 2003 or so. Never had any one take more than a glance at the underside of the engine. The SC would have passed every time with a cat/muffler set up like the one listed.
That said, are you going to roll the dice? George |
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I too have thought of this set up. |
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Even if they do peek underneath the engine, 95% cant tell if they are looking at something stock, aftermarket, or modified in any way, shape or form. This of course doesnt hold true if you have a highly polished set of headers or the like. Anyone can probably tell at that point. |
Like I said, I have it covered. But a lot of guys haven't been so lucky. Finding the lazy shop requires luck or referral. The point is that the rig described here is NOT a slam dunk in Calif, like it may be in other states.
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This was posted as a solution to pass smog. I stand by my statement that it won't pass visual in Cali. Never said anything about absolutely, never, positively, etc.
Unless one knows the shop they are dealing with, and they try to get such a contraption past the wrong person, the may get put into a corner where things get extremely tough for them. |
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This setup has worked great so far - no issues, passes smog and doesn't sound half bad:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1266524956.jpg |
Steve W - dayum, that is tight looking. Mine looks like a Rube Goldberg device in comparison.
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There was someone here that would mod the stock SSI to slip a Cat in on each side before the stock banana muffler.
With this came bypass pipes so the cats could be removed if wanted. Was a nice set up. |
I am thinking the smog shops do not know what a stock SC or 911 really looks like unless we bump into a Porsche guy.
They mostly go to a list of what is supposed to be there and look to identify it. O2, air pump, cat, EFI... If the cat is an aftermarket unit and installed in a stock looking manner, it probably is not going to send up a flag. If there is any thing that looks custom between the air cleaner and the cat, one is taking there chances as that is what sends up the red flag. Having said that, I would take my modified P cars in on Sunday mornings first thing knowing I was going to get the lowest guy on the tree and that his biggest concern was probably trying to finish his first cup of coffee and to survive having to many beers the night before. Can anyone confirm they actually go to a DMV website to see actual pictures of our car. My shop said that is not true. |
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I've seen the setup Steve has posted before. You know what..... that looks somewhat factory to the untrained eye er.. 20 yr old smog tech. Some don't even know what kind of car it is thats being smogged! Looks like something factory on a Peugeot or Renault... well something French... Wow! that setup should be rented out to the fellow community members here on Pelican. Again, efhughes3 pretty much has it right.... its a gamble with who you get at the smog station, and as what is interpreted as "factory" |
I had a smog guy in TX that was trying to find how to open the front hood to look at the engine.
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