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Open defogger filament
On our '86, we have an open filament within the center defogging element.
Only one filament is defective. Any way to correct this issue without a major surgery? Thanks in advance, Gerry http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1266516613.jpg |
You can get a kit to fix it at about any auto parts store.
It's a conductive 'paint' that goes on over the break. If you mask and apply carefully it's not too noticable. |
You can get this at any decent Auto Parts Store. I have repaired a few defrosters, works great. One tip, ythe brush they give you sucks. Go to a place that has paint brushes for artists and get a 4/0 or 5/0 brush.
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I did call Permatex, and was advised that the product they offer will not work on a single filament repair. Additionally I was advised to contact a "window" specialist. Thanks again, Gerry |
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What!!! There seems to be a miscommunication. I have repaired several lines with this stuff. You just find the break in the line and paint on the stuff. I am assuming you are referring to one of the lines across the width of the windshield. |
how did you check the filaments?
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1-Put the key in the run position (note engine does not need to be running); 2-Set your volt meter to a suitable range (mine is set to 0-5 or 0-25 volts dc). 3-Connect the negative lead to a ground inthe car; 4-Turn on the defogger; 5-Touch the positive lead to the suspect line. If it reads zero volts, move down the line towards the driver side until you get a reading. If it reads some amount of volts, move down the line to the passenger side until it stops reading (the reading will decrease as you get closer to the passenger side). 6-The spot where the reading stops is where the break exists. Sometimes you can just see the break. Use the voltmeter to confirm. |
That's the stuff I was talking about.
I've used it also. Worked fine. |
can you just check for continuity along the line?
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Use of an ohmmeter does not work well because the individual lines are connected at both ends to a common "bus". You would be looking for a small change in resistance that you may or may not see. I find that the voltmeter method works very well. |
ahhh, that kinda makes sense. I just got a multimeter and am trying to figure out how to work the dern thing. lots o' features.
thanks |
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Thanks, I'll try a loop that is used for viewing slides and negatives to check for the location of the open circuit. Perhaps I did not communicate the issue to the folks at Permatex, however I thought that I was quite specific as to the single filament open circuit. The defective filament became quite obvious during the use of the defogger ckt last week. Question: Is the filament exposed out of the glass on the inside of the window? Thanks to all who responded to this anomoly. Gerry |
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Hopefully you will find the break visually, if not a $5 Harbor Freight voltmeter will do the trick. |
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I used a multimeter set on the VDC scale, connected the - to ground, and very lightly probed the defective filament from the inside on the driver's side, to the passenger side. When I lost voltage, the open was located. Good luck, Gerry |
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