Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Gladwyne, PA
Posts: 201
1974 911 Question

Hello- I'm going to look at a regular, non S version tomorrow and wondered what a numbers matching car means? Which numbers are supposed to match? The VIN and engine numbers are different, correct? What should I look out for and in what location of the car would I find?

Thanks.

nf

'82 SC Targa
'97 Aero coupe

Old 01-15-2015, 11:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Been here a while
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: East coast, west coast, typ. 35,000 ft
Posts: 2,450
don't worry about the numbers, worry about rust. 74 chassis are just as prone to rust as the longhood cars. poke around everywhere, especially the front and rear suspension mount points and the rocker panels (jack points)

a '74 non-S coupe, chassis # 91141000001-9114104014 should have a motor from 6140001-6146625 and be of type 911/92 the trans type should be a 915/06
Old 01-15-2015, 11:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 948
Matching numbers means that the car has the same engine and transmission it left the factory with. There is a slight value increase for this. You can order a Certificate of Authenticity from Porsche which should give you these numbers. If the numbers fall in the ranges given above, then you most likely will have the correct engine. It isn't a certainty though.
__________________
John Thompson
Eugene, Oregon
Old 01-15-2015, 12:06 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Gladwyne, PA
Posts: 201
re

Thanks for the replies. 2 more things,

1) the car has the US spec rear bumperettes. Shouldn't 74's have the smaller ones?
2) what is the correct side mirror for the '74? I know these have been replaced but wondered what stock was. One driver side chrome? No pass side?

Thanks again.
Old 01-21-2015, 10:06 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Nate2046's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Indy
Posts: 378
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by nealf2002 View Post
Thanks for the replies. 2 more things,

1) the car has the US spec rear bumperettes. Shouldn't 74's have the smaller ones?
2) what is the correct side mirror for the '74? I know these have been replaced but wondered what stock was. One driver side chrome? No pass side?

Thanks again.
1. Yes, all 74s had the smaller bumperettes.
2. Chrome driver side only, though I believe a passenger side mirror was an option.
Old 01-21-2015, 10:19 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Ayo Irpin, Ukraine!
 
70SATMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 12,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonett43 View Post
don't worry about the numbers, worry about rust.
Terrible advice IMO.

Matching numbers is 10-15% of value, the same as I'd apply to a color change.

That is on TOP of what ever the car needs in the way of repairs and freshening.
__________________
Harmlessly passing gas in the grassland away;
Only dimly aware of a certain smell in the air
Old 01-21-2015, 11:50 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Malibu, CA
Posts: 469
Garage
Agreed, 74 is the best year for the 2.7 without all the smog rubbish so check it out.
__________________
912's"65 PD ,67 SWT,68x3,76e"
911's"68SWT,71S,73.5,76,82,88"
88 944 turbo,99 m coupe,01 coxster, VW bugs"65,74,72 V8"
68 E type,01 XJ8
US500 mbz
Old 01-21-2015, 11:56 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Bollweevil
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fulshear, Texanistan
Posts: 3,363
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonett43 View Post
don't worry about the numbers, worry about rust. 74 chassis are just as prone to rust as the longhood cars. poke around everywhere, especially the front and rear suspension mount points and the rocker panels (jack points)
All 911's should be carefully checked for rust. Galvanized cars are less susceptible to rust but certainly not immune. FYI the pan, rocker panels, suspension points and some other areas of '74's are galvanized.
__________________
Jack
74 911 Coupe
2.7L - K21 Option - S suspension
Old 01-21-2015, 12:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,910
Quote:
Originally Posted by 74-911 View Post
All 911's should be carefully checked for rust. Galvanized cars are less susceptible to rust but certainly not immune. FYI the pan, rocker panels, suspension points and some other areas of '74's are galvanized.
They are? I didn't think any galvanizing came in to play until 76-77?
Old 01-21-2015, 01:42 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Charles Freeborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,945
Garage
Love my '74. Things to look for - what struts does it have (Bilsteins are green, Koni black, etc) Does it have a front oil cooler? (non S probably not) Rear sway bar (non-S maybe not) AC ?
'74's were not galvanized. If it's a PA car, it will have some rust depending on if it was driven in the winter. It can all be repaired if you've got the time and or money.
Engine work has been covered in many a thread. If it's done they're fun lil' runners.
-C
__________________
Bone stock 1974 911S Targa.
1972 914/4 Race Car
Old 01-21-2015, 03:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Bollweevil
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Fulshear, Texanistan
Posts: 3,363
Quote:
Originally Posted by drcoastline View Post
They are? I didn't think any galvanizing came in to play until 76-77?
Lots of confusion on this issue but this thread seems to cover the galvanizing progression in the 911's:

Body Galvanizing in Porsche 911

__________________
Jack
74 911 Coupe
2.7L - K21 Option - S suspension
Old 01-21-2015, 03:48 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:37 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.