Stainless Steel Braided Lines

[mrm930]

Does any body have a good source to have stainless steel braided hoses custom manufactured? I need for fuel and oil lines on a turbo.

I know of Aeroquip - Any others?

Thanks

[tchanson]

Try Jegs.





Tim

[gregwils]

It wasn't clear if you meant custom-made for you or custom-made by you. I just bought fuel lines from these guys, as have many other on the board. They have a complete Mocal Oil Cooling guide for Porsche, metric fittings, lots of good stuff.

British American Transfer

[mrm930]

Thanks for the input. Went to the BAT website - me likey - especially the titanium connectors. Well I guess its time to start measuring and open up the wallet. This is going on my 78 - 930. I have a thread posted "930 renovation" if anyone is interested. Right now I am just working on updating the fuel injection and new spark plug wires for the twin plug crankfire. So braided lines seemed like the next step. In the next few days, I am going to post more picts of the powder coated and polished parts. T

There has to be a point when I have to stop. Too much "while I am in there" thinking.

Thanks again

[nineball]

Originally Posted by mrm930

There has to be a point when I have to stop. Too much "while I am in there" thinking.

never gonna happen

[lane912]

it is finaly nice to see black hardwear instead of the tacky red and blue stuff

[RonDent]

Try Swedgelok

12251 Cary Circle
Suite 500
La Vista, NE 68128

402-733-7636

[mrm930]

Originally Posted by lane912

it is finaly nice to see black hardwear instead of the tacky red and blue stuff

Yes - I agree, very cool and a good clean look

[m1franck]

mrm930, The braided lines with AN fittings are easy enough to make as long as you have a few "basic" tools. I use a bench vise along with a set of the aluminum soft "jaws" to hold the fitting during assembly. You can also purchase the fancy aluminum fitting wrenches, but I find wrapping the fitting with masking or electrical tape & using an an adjustable wrench in conjunction with the bench vise/soft jaws works just fine. Also, I cut the braided line with an air grinder with a cut off wheel. Wrap the hose with masking or electrical tape prior to cutting so the braid does not fray.

Make sure you thoroughly clean out the lines with air, water & air before attaching the fittings & after fittings are attached. Oil the fitting threads prior to assembly & they go together like a knife through hot butter. I've plumbed a couple of SCCA GT race cars & my current weekend driver 911 using this method & have never had a fitting assembly failure.

Jegs & BAT are good sources for the parts you will need. Here's a photo of some recent braided lines, albeit the "tacky" blue & red fittings, on the weekend driver. Regardless of the fitting color I think this is just so much nicer looking than cheesy hose clamps & that nasty factory cloth braided hose. Porsche purists my want to look the other direction, since I prefer a touch of "hot rod' as opposed to bone stock!

[onboost]

Originally Posted by mrm930

Thanks for the input. Went to the BAT website - me likey - especially the titanium connectors. Well I guess its time to start measuring and open up the wallet. This is going on my 78 - 930. I have a thread posted "930 renovation" if anyone is interested. Right now I am just working on updating the fuel injection and new spark plug wires for the twin plug crankfire. So braided lines seemed like the next step. In the next few days, I am going to post more picts of the powder coated and polished parts. T

There has to be a point when I have to stop. Too much "while I am in there" thinking.

Thanks again

Which fuel lines are you doing..? I've done the top ones on my 78 930.. feed & return to fuel dist and accumulator etc.. braided steel.

Decided I should do those from the exit of tunnel to pump and from pump forward due to age and (while you're in there) however I will do these in a different material as the braided stainless can chafe other cables, lines etc.. will probably use the Lightweight or Starlite hose for these.

Paul

[m1franck]

Paul, How did you connect & convert to AN fitting from your factory hardlines at the exit of the tunnel? Did you use one of these?

[onboost]

I haven't gotten to that point yet.. but the thought is to use something similar, or I may use/incoprate the factory hardware to that area.

[mrm930]

m1franck - very good look. Mine will be similar. I'm jealous - a carbon fiber engine shroud!. Looks great.

[mrm930]

onboost - Did you eliminate the hardlines at the fuel accumulator and fuel distributor and go with all braided lines? - or - Did you incorporate hardlines and braided lines?

This is what I want to start with and go with the oil return lines like in the photo of m1franck - along with others. And m1 - I am going to fabricate them myself - sounds like you got it down.

Mark

[175K911]

Originally Posted by m1franck

mrm930, The braided lines with AN fittings are easy enough to make as long as you have a few "basic" tools. I use a bench vise along with a set of the aluminum soft "jaws" to hold the fitting during assembly. You can also purchase the fancy aluminum fitting wrenches, but I find wrapping the fitting with masking or electrical tape & using an an adjustable wrench in conjunction with the bench vise/soft jaws works just fine. Also, I cut the braided line with an air grinder with a cut off wheel. Wrap the hose with masking or electrical tape prior to cutting so the braid does not fray.

Make sure you thoroughly clean out the lines with air, water & air before attaching the fittings & after fittings are attached. Oil the fitting threads prior to assembly & they go together like a knife through hot butter. I've plumbed a couple of SCCA GT race cars & my current weekend driver 911 using this method & have never had a fitting assembly failure.

Jegs & BAT are good sources for the parts you will need. Here's a photo of some recent braided lines, albeit the "tacky" blue & red fittings, on the weekend driver. Regardless of the fitting color I think this is just so much nicer looking than cheesy hose clamps & that nasty factory cloth braided hose. Porsche purists my want to look the other direction, since I prefer a touch of "hot rod' as opposed to bone stock!

I just did the same thing. Made my new oil lines to connect B&B cooler in the nose in series with the factory Carrera cooler. Got all my Aeroquip fittings, hose and AN to metric adapters from Pegasus. They're just over the border in WI so I get the parts in a day. Assembling the hoses wasn't difficult, and your instructions are spot on.

[naparsei]

Originally Posted by m1franck

Jegs & BAT are good sources for the parts you will need. Here's a photo of some recent braided lines, albeit the "tacky" blue & red fittings, on the weekend driver. Regardless of the fitting color I think this is just so much nicer looking than cheesy hose clamps & that nasty factory cloth braided hose. Porsche purists my want to look the other direction, since I prefer a touch of "hot rod' as opposed to bone stock!

That is a great looking engine. I love the shroud.

[willtel]

Originally Posted by naparsei

That is a great looking engine. I love the shroud.

Agreed. Is that a carbon fiber fuse cover on the left?

[m1franck]

Yes, that is a CF fuse panel cover from AutobahnExtremist: Autobahn Extremist

It's very nicely done & a great piece of engine compartment bling.

[Mitch Leland]

I know everyone knows this, but as a reminder S.S. braided lines will eat through other surfaces if they're not clamped up properly. I've had them rub right through aluminum aircraft baffles and cowlings when they were not tied down.

[onboost]

Originally Posted by m1franck

Paul, How did you connect & convert to AN fitting from your factory hardlines at the exit of the tunnel? Did you use one of these?

Sorry for the delay in getting back, busy with work, February snow-storm repair, and actually got a little time in the garage!

As Mitch stated, you need to be sure that they are tied back ast not rub anything. Braided stainles is capable of chaffing through other lines, cables, and other metal and aluminum surfaces if not properly isolated. That was the reason for suggesting the lightweight or Starlite hose

Anyway, these lines are from another project, non-Turbo. However, they are braided stainless and are set up to mate to the factory hardlines at the exit of the tunnel using the factory fittings.