Why not a 930?

[crb07]

I have both. If I could only have one it would be the 930. The Carrera is fun to drive, but the Turbo is times 10. I drive the Carrera more and around town it makes more sence, but I live in South Florida. If I am going to get on the highway and not sit in traffic I take the turbo every time.

[89911]

I like the turbo, but, in my opinion, the wheel sizes vs fender flair is all wrong. Why do I have 8 and 9 fuchs on my narrow body that are actually wider then the ones that come on the turbo? I have seen the turbos with aftermarket wheels that are much wider then the OE fuchs. They just look a little silly to me.

[911st]

I have had a stock euro 78 930, a 91 heavenly modified C2 Turbo, a 72 911S light weight w 7" fuchs & 22/28 torsion bars, and a stock suspension 85 Carrera with just a sport alignment and good tires. I tracked the 72 and 85 and have only ridden in someone else's turbo on the track thought I did try to autoX the 91 C2T.

It seems the Turbo guys seem to put most there efforts into the motor and the NA guys more so into there suspensions though this is not always the case.

It really comes down to the driver and there abilities. A 930 Turbo can be brutally fast especially down the straights and be a real rush to drive.

However, in real world and at the track the NA cars seem to be able to be as fast as a hot turbo with a lot less NA HP. I have had a couple of good drivers in fire breathing track 930's, probably making about 400hp, have to let my little 200hp cars by in the corners to not be seen after a couple of laps.

Still, some day I hope to build a 930 track car for the adrenalin rush and I love them both.

I suspect if someone was going to buy a Porsche and keep it a long time the 930 would be a better purchase as it will probably not be long before its value starts to follow the early 911S cars.

[PAUL RODELO]

rgoodrich,

I've owned and driven both.
As you've stated in your original post....."OTHER than $$$.... are there good reasons to stick with aspiratied cars?"

Personally, I love to heel-toe and throw the car into a turn.
This is possible especially with early 911 (long hoods)
They are responsive, high reving, light and nimble.
You can have tons of fun and be well below the speed limit.

In general, I would describe the 930 as a comfortable road car with amazing acceleration. They are heavy, for a 911 base car, but have a nice smooth ride with incredible power. Not to mention the bold lines of the car that still turn heads today. Due to the limited numbers....they are increasing in value every year.

The SC/Carrera model (mid-year) cars are "work horses". Reliable and kind of in-between the early cars and the 930s. More torque, mileage, reliability, and better ride than an early car. But as the 911 became more technologically advanced, they become heavier. As a result, the driving experience became less and less.
Electronic this, power assist that, traction control, anti-lock, launch control you name it. Although a lot of these devices do not relate to the SC, you can see how the driving experienced has changed.

I think 930s are great for an individual with maturity and respect for the cars capability. There must be a lot of discipline when driving one of these. Just think, a factory stock 930 can be wound up to 65 mph in 1st gear and then 100 mph in 2nd. Also, 930s can be reliable. I drove my 930 an additional 120k miles before I rebuilt it. Just like anything, as long as you don't abuse them and maintain them properly, they will last.

Here are a couple pics of my cars when I owned both. FYI, my 930 was my daily driver for 5 years till I purchased my 70 911. For most, the 930 is a dream we all have as a young boy as I did. I just had to have one. I owned one for 10 years, enjoyed it and am over it. But I can say, it is an experience no other 911 based car can match.



I guess that is why I keep going older with my Porsche purchases. I personally prefer aspirated, light weight and early S components. Basically, that is what I drive today. Lastly, I sold my 2007 German Auto Fest 1st Place Show winning and September 2007 Issue of Excellence 930 and kept my early 911.

For my needs and driving experience, I went with the early aspirated. But I do understand, many of us have the desire to own the 930.

Regards,

Paul & Judy

[CharlesJones]

Originally Posted by 89911

I like the turbo, but, in my opinion, the wheel sizes vs fender flair is all wrong. Why do I have 8 and 9 fuchs on my narrow body that are actually wider then the ones that come on the turbo? I have seen the turbos with aftermarket wheels that are much wider then the OE fuchs. They just look a little silly to me.

I agree with that. Sometimes I love the idea of an early 3 litre turbo, but I just can't come to terms with those enormous rear arches and spoiler. In my opinion they look way over the top. However, lots of people on this board say they look awesome, so each to his own.

[UrQuattro]

Pshshshshshssssssssssssseeeeeee.............

[dw1]

Originally Posted by Talewinds

Yes, exactly, why not a 930?
I like my Carrera and I'm making it better all the time, but I can't think of one single reason why I wouldn't wave bye-bye to it in a moment for a 930...

+1

But.....

I'm already far too well acquainted with my local friends who "protect and serve".

I could have a 930, but then I wouldn't have my license. Boost is just too much fun.

- Dan
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'87 black/black sunroof coupe w. f/r spoilers, Fabspeed premuffler, Dansk 1-in-2-out, SW chip, euro ride height, bump steer kit, bumperettes removed, CDR-220, etc.

[WPOZZZ]

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL

Buy both. We use the 911 for short trips to the store and the 930 for longer hauls to the Myrtle Beach. The cost of the 930 is high, but so fun to add parts.

Originally Posted by cellison

Just buy both. The 911 is more of a cruiser than the 930.

Originally Posted by Shadetree930

This is why you own a 930 ....

I couldn't agree with you more.

[PAUL RODELO]

Unfortunately, I never video'd my 930 RSR.

See pic below with Charles V.996 in the driver seat.



But the sound of this car would suit. (See Video Link)

YouTube - Porsche 934 Zork

If I were to do it again, I would definitely go with the 934 cams.
Either go all the way....or don't do it at all.

FYI, the video will start after 0:16.

Also, check this video out.
See what turbo charging and late 70s early 80s technology can do.....Wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPfK_BispVo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fHaaJ1qyQs&feature=related

Thanks,

Paul & Judy

[plexiform]

there should be no such question as "why not a 930?" The answer is Yes you should get a 930... as long as you can afford it and somehow convince the wife its a needed purchase.

#1 reason to buy a 930:

hands down sexiest car ever built!

[Augustus]

Originally Posted by jwasbury

Perhaps this spelling error is a sort of freudian slip

From Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: fiend
Pronunciation: \ˈfēnd\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English fīend; akin to Old High German fīant enemy, Sanskrit pīyati he reviles, blames
Date: before 12th century
1 a : devil 1 b : demon c : a person of great wickedness or maliciousness
2 : a person extremely devoted to a pursuit or study : fanatic
3 : addict 1
4 : wizard 3

Why not 930? I asked myself this very same question as I was considering my first Porsche purchase. I'm glad I chose forced induction.



Have you driven a turbo? The beauty is more than skin deep.

......what a beautiful ****ing colour!

[sc_rufctr]

Originally Posted by Shadetree930

This is why you own a 930 ....

Aside from the flames that's how my 78 SC goes...

No BS... but I have a "Kruger" modified 3.1 litre.

[pcar9119]

Take the 15k you'll save, split it, and a build a 3.0 that will hang with one. Thats what I'm working on. You could have 30 to 40 less horse, but with the all the less weight, and constant usable hp, it will be alot of fun...

[carrera turbo]

Don't to it they are way over rated,

I mean do you really need all that power and the feel of a turbo starting to spool at 3ooo RPMs and then even though you know its going to happen you still get a rush when the car launches like you just pulled a trigger. I have had built 3.2s several other 911s and nothing has compared to my 930 in the same vintage p-car.

And as maintenance goes most of these cars are over 20 years old, most all of them are going to need work.

If you have a chance to buy one, go for it and don't look back!!


cheers ed

[HawgRyder]

I have always been torn between a small high revving engine like the Porshe 2.0 or Coventry Climax 2 litre series....or a great big slow turning bellowing V8 or V12.
Perhaps I need both....wonder how the wife would feel about that?
Bob

[slow&rusty]

I am shocked at some of you saying that 930s are alot of money to maintain, I find it one of the most inexpensive cars to own. Every day regular consumable parts (tune-up stuff, brakes, suspension pieces etc) are the same price as my Datsun Z.

[spoke]

I bought my 930 last year and have a blast driving it. Not only do you have that real wide look fenders, but also the power to make even grown men giggle.

The car parts are somewhat more expensive than normal 911's. Brake rotors are about $175 a piece.

But the fun of driving the turbo makes me forget about the cost of parts.

This car is a blast to drive.

[Les Paul]

[jurhip]

I think 930's and carrera's (I have a 3.2) are different cars for different purposes.
Depending on the road, one can be much more fun than the other and vice versa.

The brutality of a tuned 930 (at least the one I drove) is awesome. But, that brutality can be burdensome on a back road when you really want to link up some turns smoothly.

Given the choice, I'd take both.

[Superman]

Since lots of cars out there have better straight-line acceleration than my SC, it is comforting to know there are air-cooled Porsches out there that will CLOBBER those guys (Subaru WRX, Dodge Pickups and Chargers, etc.) Like having a big brother to handle the bullies.