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stephers 04-25-2010 06:58 PM

Real fuchs or not
 
Can anyone tell me if this wheel is a real Fuchs or a copy? What do I need to look for?

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Joe Bob 04-25-2010 07:04 PM

real....

tcar 04-25-2010 07:18 PM

The part number starting with 911.xxx.xxx is a Porsche part number.

Also, Fuchs is German for 'Fox'; the Fuchs logo is a stylized fox face that you see under the 15.

stephers 04-25-2010 08:08 PM

Thanks, guys

Geronimo '74 04-25-2010 08:48 PM

Yup, real deal, no worries

Pazuzu 04-26-2010 01:29 PM

Lemme ask you guys this...

Everyone knows that the fox head, the 2 digit number representing the size in a raised box, and the 911/951 part number are what people use to decide if a wheel is "real".

Why do you assume that? Since everyone knows these things, then why isn't the market flooded (well, as flooded as a fake Fuchs market can be...) with fakes which have all of these represented?

Are there really no good fakes out there with fox heads and 911 part numbers on them?

Bob Goding 04-26-2010 01:40 PM

Its a 16 x 6--why would anyone want to make a fake one of those?

McLovin 04-26-2010 01:40 PM

Lots of people have made replica Fuchs over the years. People sometimes refer to these as "fake" Fuchs, which I guess in a way they are, but really aren't "fakes" in that the mfr doesn't try to pass them off as originals.

I don't believe there has ever been an instance of a true "fake" like you are talking about. That would take a major manufacturer to do, I don't think any manufacturer with the capacity to make an automotive wheel is going to go out on a limb to try to make a "fake" like that. How would they sell it? A wheel manufacturer selling "new Fuchs" is going to raise a lot of suspicion.

They'd eventually get caught for sure. Any cast replica is going to weigh a lot more than a real one, and isn't going to have the level of finish. If they made a fake forged wheel of the same weight and casting quality as an original, they'd be able to sell it legitimately as a high quality repro.

And, there wouldn't be enough money in doing that anyways. I know we like the wheels in our little corner of the world, but millions of people aren't looking to buy a Fuchs wheel.

Pazuzu 04-26-2010 02:27 PM

I'm going to start buying $249 replicas and putting little fox heads and such on them, (which will cost about $1200 each...) and selling them for $1500 each, and I'll get rich, and that'll show you guys!! :p

It still seems somewhat specious to decide real or fake/replica based on a stamp...not that there is many other ways to decide over the web. In real life, there is a fit and finish that is more obvious.

tcar 04-26-2010 04:15 PM

I'm pretty sure all the 'Fake' Fuchs are cast and a lot heavier.

Fuchs are forged.

There's a seller on ebay selling new Fuchs cheap if you read the title; the 'fine print' explains that they are not Fuchs and are not forged. The paddles (petals) aren't the same profile either.

rusnak 04-26-2010 04:27 PM

Something just does not look right to me. Maybe it's the white paint. And Fuchs wheels have a lot of numbering and a stylized "P" that looks like a triangle and a half circle put together.

The size designation should say something like 6Jx15 or something like that. They included the rim profile, which on Porsche is a J profile.


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