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Cheap immobilizer ideas (hidden switches etc)?

I'm getting tired of removing the fuel pump relay or distributor rotor. Anyone ever come up with a cheap immobilizer like a hidden switch that kills the fuel pump relay or using an existing switch to control the relay?

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Old 07-27-2004, 09:51 PM
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Run a remote switch to the DME box ground wire. If that is left open, nothing in the car works. We used this for my brothers club race car kill switch.
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Just use any switch which can not be seen but easily reached from the drivers seat.
I would not disconnect the ground wire from the DME (although the previous post had good results). When the ground is disconnected and power is turned on, current can be sourced through all sensor inputs and outputs to ground, which are NOT designed to source power. It is much safer to cut power.
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A time delayed kill sw is good theft prevention. You want the car to die as the car is being driven away. This should be part of a multi layered system.
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Guys, the car has CIS and CDI not DME. What would be an effective yet safe way to rig up a kill switch for a stock SC... a kill switch which won't screw up the electronics?
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What would be an effective yet safe way to rig up a kill switch for a stock SC... a kill switch which won't screw up the electronics?
The routine fuel pump ground on/off sw is well known by every crook. Do the well known routines then confuse them when they believe ther're delivering your car to the chop shop.
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Ground out the tachometer and hence the coil won't fire... see my first post
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I have a $40 heavy-duty Bosch racing-type cutoff switch--twist the handle 90 degrees and it comes out and cuts off the ground--and it's under the trunk carpeting. (My battery happens to be relocated to the smuggler's box, which makes that location easy, but you could put it anywhere.) I don't even bother to take the handle--the key, in effect--with me, I just twist it out and leave it under the carpet. Between finding the handle, reinstallng it and then firing up a car with chokeless PMO carburetors, I figger I'm safe from an thief under the age of 60.

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Ground out the tachometer and hence the coil won't fire... see my first post
That will work on a car with points. His SC doesn't have points, it has a magnetic trigger, and the Tach signal doesn't come from the coil, it comes from the CDI.
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I have a $40 heavy-duty Bosch racing-type cutoff switch--twist
Hi Steve.. what's to stop a jump across the terminals.. or maybe the idea of a hidden sw is the idea ? and I use a layered approach figuring he'll jump the ignition with his own parts and harness and be able to jump the starter. I was told to delay him as long as possible thus making more tense and then kill the car if he's driving away.. I even have one of those pagers in case I feel like getting shot.
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Cool Go for the obvious.....

Any experienced car thief will probably find a hidden switch no matter where you put it. Why not do something different, such as turn your driving light switch into a kill switch. Or turn the ashtray into a switch so that the ignition or fuel pump is off when the ashtray is open. Or maybe even put a contact switch under the seat so that all you have to do is move the seat all the way back or forward to trigger the imobilizer. The idea here is to be creative and not obvious.

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Re: Go for the obvious.....

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The idea here is to be creative and not obvious.

yeah Fred.. see what the pro installers do then somewhat fake that install yourself to fake him out and then have a layered attack against the crook.. my next bright idea is to somehow rig up an ear damage electonic siren. The Galls brochure has plenty of them for sale. Something that'll trigger pain if your within 10ft of the cabin.. that'll be "creative and not obvious" wouldn't you think?
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Hi Guys,

It may be a bit overkill, but usually I pull the ign coil wire and take it with me (knowing I have a spare back home) plus I use a club. I think that this is about as imobile as it can practically be. I never really like to pull my FP relay (cuz in my car, the FP does nothing as it was bypassed by some fool PO in its' past life). Switches can almost all be found given the time, if the crook has it. Beyond this if they really want your ride that bad it is gone anyway by whatever means. My thots anyway...

Damn crooks! Most immobile cars are found vandalised!
But you still may have your undriven (by a crook) car.

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I figger I'm safe from an thief under the age of 60.

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I already have a cheap imbobilizer... the stock 915 gearbox

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